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Old 03-21-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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For starters, I'm not impressed by "prayers," particularly when the "prayers" are there to promote political, pseudo-religious propaganda. Second, I'm not impressed by intruders, nosyasses, and a-holes, so "grandma" didn't impress me one bit. Third, she's a scumbag, only there to be exposing people having legal medical treatment. Pro-lifers are evil a-hs posing as holy.

Aside from that, the muscle-armed "grandma" is a-okay.
You do not have to me impressed did not ask you to be impressed. However it is her right to do.Whether you think she is a scumbag is irrelevant to the fact she was assaulted. You think its OK to physically attack people who you judge as a scumbag then that would be a two way street that we do not wish to go down

 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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That so-called "grandma" (what the hell there is grandmaish about her I'm still trying to figure out!) is a slithering, venomous, politically-motivated snake.
You are free to think that, that is your right.They are not free to assault her on a public street because they do not like what she was doing
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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She was never stopped or slowed the EMT .
No one said that she stopped or slowed. YOU REALLY do not understand what interfering means, do you?

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She is on a public street and can film what she wants.
sorry, but this is wrong. Just because she is out in public, doesn't give her the free reign to do what she wants:

she can't freely harass people. She can't freely record someone without permission (again you are ignoring that Delaware has a 2 party consent law). she can't interfere with what the EMT's are doing (and what matters is IF they felt she was interfering, not what YOU believe). She can't take upskirt shots of little girls.

And what she can't do is actively slander a woman.

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She had no right to go into PP and film .But to say its illegal for a citizen to film public employees on the street would mean it would be illegal to film a cop beating a suspect .
You've been in this thread long enough to have seen the Delaware law posted, that puts her her into the wrong.

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It would mean it would be illegal to film a fireman working a fire.
Apples and oranges. There is no expectation of privacy for a fireman putting out a fire.

It seems that you don't know what expectation of privacy is.

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The film does not show the face of the person in the stretcher it just shows her going into the ambulance ,
but, she was with a friend, who was identifiable. Said woman could be identified by other means.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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when the EMT asked her to stop he closed the door and the woman stopped the film waited for the police. Since PP for privacy reasons did not release the name of the person the the stretcher they could not get the name of the person that attacked grandma
Your claim is that that police were called, and arrived, and Planned Parenthood refused to give the name of the assailant? Link please.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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You are free to think that, that is your right.They are not free to assault her on a public street because they do not like what she was doing

and she has no right to film someone without their permission, if capturing audio. Again, Delaware 2 party consent law.

She is also not allowed to interfere with the work of Paramedics/EMT's. The fact they asked her to stop is enough to put belief that they felt she was bothering them.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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The grandma has the right to pray and film what is on a public street
The PROTESTER was still in the wrong. She recorded another human being in a private moment, with the intention of posting that private moment, and using it to further her agenda. With no regard for the harm she might do to this other human being.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Tejas
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Killing babies is wrong, attacking grandmas is wrong and recording women being stretchered into an ambulance is just sick. Ive no sympathy for anyone here.

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Old 03-21-2013, 10:40 AM
 
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It's not illegal to pray in public nor is it illegal to video an ambulance , emt , fireman. Remember Rodney king . It not illegal to tape cops Fireman ambulances . If she was filming at target or on the street at Macy's it would also not be illegal. The problem a lot of lefties have is she was at an abortion clinic .
If she was just filming the ambulance, why did she continue to film the doorway, waiting for the patient to be wheeled out? Why, when the EMT asked her to stop, did she continue? And why did she post the video with all the comments about a "botched abortion"?

The PROTESTER in this case wasn't being passive, she invaded the privacy of another person.

A third person acted to protect the privacy of the patient. But the third person's actions were a violation of the protester's rights. So both the protester and the person who pushed the protester were in the wrong.
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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and she has no right to film someone without their permission, if capturing audio. Again, Delaware 2 party consent law.

She is also not allowed to interfere with the work of Paramedics/EMT's. The fact they asked her to stop is enough to put belief that they felt she was bothering them.
2 party consent law.
Summary of Consent Requirements for Taping Telephone Conversations

This chart sets forth the applicable law regarding whether telephone conversations may be lawfully recorded. Remember that unless the caller and the called party are in the same state - then only that state's law would apply - the interstate call actually implicates three bodies of law, federal law, the law of the calling-party's state, and the law of the called- party's state. Each law must be obeyed.


Delaware Del. Code. Ann. tit. 11, § 1335(a)(4) It is a violation of privacy (both a criminal misdemeanor and civilly actionable) to intercept a telephone conversation without the consent of all parties

was not a telephone conversation

Summary of Consent Requirements for Taping Telephone Conversations




Video Recording
Most video recordings are legal with or without consent.

There are very few laws which prohibit video recording of any kind, but there are laws in some areas dealing with areas of expected privacy. These include areas such as bathrooms, locker rooms, changing/dressing rooms, adult bedrooms, and other areas where a person should expect a high level of personal privacy.
The majority of the laws dealing with video recording privacy issues tend to allow surreptitious recording and monitoring of video activity under most circumstances without notification of any of the parties involved.

So far, the courts have allowed video recordings of nannies, elder care employees, and other types of video recordings made with covert cameras without the subjects consent

Security Camera Systems, Hidden Spy Cameras, & Security Cameras

The public street is not an expected place of privacy
 
Old 03-21-2013, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
If she was just filming the ambulance, why did she continue to film the doorway, waiting for the patient to be wheeled out? Why, when the EMT asked her to stop, did she continue? And why did she post the video with all the comments about a "botched abortion"?

The PROTESTER in this case wasn't being passive, she invaded the privacy of another person.

A third person acted to protect the privacy of the patient. But the third person's actions were a violation of the protester's rights. So both the protester and the person who pushed the protester were in the wrong.
The third person had no right to assault grandma.She has every right to film on a public street.
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