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Old 03-18-2013, 07:15 PM
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Ten years ago today, the US invaded Iraq. We're mostly gone, can we say mission accomplished? The majority of Americans (around 70%) supported the decision to go to war at the time. I'm sure many posters here are among them. How'd you feel? If you were a supporter, what made you change your mind? As for myself, among other reasons, I was in favor of the war because it could make good television. There were other reasons, but I can't remember them anymore*. Edmund Burke said, "A conscientious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood." Wonder if our leaders followed that idea.

*Ah remember one. We need to fight them there so we don't fight them here. Since we haven't had a successful terrorist attack since the Iraq War, that worked out well. Though, more Americans died in Iraq than September 11, but perhaps the next terrorist would have been bigger.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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"We need to fight them there so we don't fight them here."

I thought that line was BULLS**T applied to Vietnam and BULLS**T applied to Iraq.

Still do, neither was a threat to the US.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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I bought into it like most, including Congress. I watched the TV news incessantly, and read all the internet reports. I was an avid Fox News watcher of the events as they unfolded. I think it might have been about the 176th time that they said We Found The WMD's I began to catch on. I wondered a lot about whether they might be wrong. Fox had daily reports and pundit hours where they were happily rebuilding everything from water systems to getting kids to school.

This clashed with many of the other reports I was seeing, including kids scared chitless to cross the street. Oil drilling was not going well, it was still in the crapper.

Eventually, I caught on. But by 2004, the Dems had a bigger numbskull running for office (IMO), and I wanted to see Bush finish what his mouth began. That was also the year I started to be wary of the stock markets. By 2007, I believed my own warnings.

Sadly, I think what this country had after 911 is gone. We had a purpose, brought on by being attacked by crazies. It was at that point I lost all respect, and certainly all trust was gone before that.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:27 PM
 
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"We need to fight them there so we don't fight them here."

I thought that line was BULLS**T applied to Vietnam and BULLS**T applied to Iraq.

Still do, neither was a threat to the US.
I agree. I thought it was BS then, and I think it's BS now. I protested the war in demonstrations in Chicago, both before the invasion and after. My feelings that this was a bogus war, fought for bogus reasons, hasn't changed.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:28 PM
 
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"We need to fight them there so we don't fight them here."

I thought that line was BULLS**T applied to Vietnam and BULLS**T applied to Iraq.

Still do, neither was a threat to the US.
But Iran and N. Korea certainly feel we're a threat to them after Iraq, so they're threatening us with nuclear weapons. Going to war against Iraq was quite a foreign policy blunder. We had already blundered enough by not doing away with Hussein from the first war with Iraq.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:29 PM
 
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Vehemently not in favor of the U.S. invading a sovereign nation that had not attacked or invaded the U.S.

There were no weapons of mass destruction. Iraq was falling apart at the seams and couldn't have invaded the Duchy of Grand Fenwick. And is Iraq any better off now? I wonder.

Bush 43 was just chafing at the reins the U.N. had put on his daddy during the first Gulf War, and thought he'd play bully. Invading Iraq was an unconscionable action that needlessly wasted thousands of lives, both Iraqi and American.

Peace is patriotic.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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But Iran and N. Korea certainly feel we're a threat to them after Iraq, so they're threatening us with nuclear weapons. Going to war against Iraq was quite a foreign policy blunder. We had already blundered enough by not doing away with Hussein from the first war with Iraq.
Kinda like Vietnam, eh?
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:32 PM
 
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Ten years ago today, the US invaded Iraq. We're mostly gone, can we say mission accomplished? The majority of Americans (around 70%) supported the decision to go to war at the time. I'm sure many posters here are among them. How'd you feel? If you were a supporter, what made you change your mind? As for myself, among other reasons, I was in favor of the war because it could make good television. There were other reasons, but I can't remember them anymore*. Edmund Burke said, "A conscientious man would be cautious how he dealt in blood." Wonder if our leaders followed that idea.

*Ah remember one. We need to fight them there so we don't fight them here. Since we haven't had a successful terrorist attack since the Iraq War, that worked out well. Though, more Americans died in Iraq than September 11, but perhaps the next terrorist would have been bigger.
After 6-7 years of the Clinton administration and every prominent dummycrat branding saddam hussein as "needing to be taken out" and "having weapons of mass destruction", I thought it was the right thing to do.

As did hillary, kerry, gore, clinton, reid, pelosi, etc, etc.

It was 19 months after 911 that we invaded Iraq....due to hussein locking out the UN weapons inspectors from doing their job.

Seek the truth.....wherever it may lead.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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After 6-7 years of the Clinton administration and every prominent dummycrat branding saddam hussein as "needing to be taken out" and "having weapons of mass desrtuction", I thought it was the right thing to do.

As did hillary, kerry, gore, clinton, reid, pelosi, etc, etc.

It was 19 months after 911 that we invaded Iraq....due to hussein locking out the UN weapons inspectors from doing their job.

Seek the truth.....wherever it may lead.
Too out of touch with reality to understand 9/11 changed what should have been our priority are ya?

Or just unwilling to follow your own advice about seeking the truth?
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:35 PM
 
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The same as I do now. I didn't have a problem with ridding the world of Saddam and his sons but that was it. In and out. That's not what we got.

There are many side issues we could discuss that I would have a problem with but I was O.K. with doing this very thing in Libya.

I wish the world took a harder stance on the world leaders that kill their citizen's.
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