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Old 03-31-2013, 12:52 PM
 
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I don't trust the republic or democrat party. Obama isn't what this country needs nor is Romney any better. I want a president that will stand up to immigration reform, who will reform the education system, who will stop this trade deficit with foreign countries in particular china, who will balance the budget, who will honestly attempt to fix many other serious problems. I don't want another president who passes another education reform or any other type of reform that is politically correct, but accomplishes nothing. I don't want a president who puts party loyalty first before his country.

 
Old 03-31-2013, 12:54 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Could you set the bar any lower??? Sounds like the left is content so long as they don't fall in last place. Aim a little higher please...




Do you not see something strange with the two "facts" you have just provided? Time to take the lib blinders off. So let me get this straight... Job growth has crawled .3% in the past 4 years, but somehow, UE has fallen 2.3%???
Nothing "strange" about it all. Try and use a little common sense will ya?

When he came into office the economy was tanking and we were shedding jobs at a rate in excess of 700,000 a month. That didn't stop the moment he took office. It began declining within a couple of months but no economy goes from shedding 3/4 of MILLION jobs one month to gaining jobs the next. The job losses took time to diminish and then turn into job gains so the UE rate didn't peak at the same time the job losses peaked. The job losses peaked at the time the UE rate had climbed to 7.8% but the UE rate continued to climb as additional job losses occured (even though the job losses were less) and that UE rate continued to climb until the job losses stopped completely and then turned into job gains - at which point that UE rate had climbed to 10% or so (that was late in 2009). At THAT point the UE rate began to fall and since then there have been roughly 4.5 million new jobs created - but of course prior to that (before the economy turned around) we were still losing jobs so the net result is nearly a "wash". So yeah, job growth is up just .3% from when he came into office 4 years ago, but it's up a WHOLE LOT MORE than that since the time when the UE rate peaked and the economy turned around. You are taking "snapshots" from two different time periods and saying "how can this make sense?"

You're looking at the net job gains from Jan 2009 to Feb 2013 (.3%) and comparing it to UE rate improvement from Oct 2009 to Feb 2013 (a change in the UE rate of 2.3%). OF COURSE they'll be a "disconnect" in the data - you are comparing two DIFFERENT periods of time. The thing you called "lib blinders" is simply common sense. You should try it.

Ken

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Old 03-31-2013, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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We can thank the Republican demands to slash spending (despite the fact that spending has grown at the slowest rate in a century under Obama) for damaging the economy. It isn't surprising that Harrier/The Mask can't grasp such a simple concept.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 01:08 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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It's pretty obvious your just another obama bucket toter. You should read your own post.
Actually what's pretty obvious is that you are simply sad and bitter that your fellow countrymen disagree with you. Get over it - disappoint is a fact of life. The American People decided that Obama had done "good enough under difficult conditions" to deserve an additional term. That's just the way it is.



Ken
 
Old 03-31-2013, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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You just attacking Obama so you can get this,

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

That $6.6 trillion dollars would have been added to our national debt, built a lot of US factories in China, and bought Americas rich a lot of personal jet airplanes.

But you still want those supply side tax cuts don't you ??
Again link something that isn't from a Liberal Propaganda machine.
Link something from the congressional budget office or something that's a little less biased/non partisan.
Oh wait you cant........... Romney never offered a 6.6 TRILLION dollar tax cut for the rich/business.
In fact the only way you could do that is Eliminating the corporate tax in America and reducing the Rich share of taxation by at least 30%.
The top 5% of people in America pay over 70% of the Taxes in this country.
Obama and his fair share crap is nothing but Propaganda and it needs to end.
 
Old 03-31-2013, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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You just attacking Obama so you can get this,

Romney's Economic Plan Includes $6.6 Trillion Tax Cut For The Rich And Corporations | ThinkProgress

That $6.6 trillion dollars would have been added to our national debt, built a lot of US factories in China, and bought Americas rich a lot of personal jet airplanes.

But you still want those supply side tax cuts don't you ??
Go home boy. Your out of your league
 
Old 03-31-2013, 04:34 PM
 
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Actually what's pretty obvious is that you are simply sad and bitter that your fellow countrymen disagree with you. Get over it - disappoint is a fact of life. The American People decided that Obama had done "good enough under difficult conditions" to deserve an additional term. That's just the way it is.



Ken
Yes obama voters are useful idiots. I've never wavered on that fact.
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yes obama voters are useful idiots. I've never wavered on that fact.
Considering that that comment is coming from one of the crowd that's been wrong on virtually EVERY prediction (ie there has been NO dollar collapse, NO hyperinflation, the stock market HAS come roaring back, the UE rate HAS dropped and Obama WAS reelected) I'd have to disagree with your assessment of WHO are the "idiots".


Get back to us when you are actually RIGHT on something.

Ken
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:49 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Yet another sign of things to come:

"Without fanfare, China passed the United States in December to become the world's leading importer of oil – the first time in nearly 40 years that the U.S. didn’t own that dubious distinction. That same month, North Dakota, Ohio and Pennsylvania together produced 1.5 million barrels of oil a day -- more than Iran exported.

As those data points demonstrate, a dramatic shift is occurring in how energy is being produced and consumed around the world – one that could lead to far-reaching changes in the geopolitical order.

U.S. policy makers, intelligence analysts and other experts are beginning to grapple with the ramifications of such a change, which could bring with it both great benefits for the U.S. and potentially dangerous consequences, including the risk of upheaval in countries and regions heavily dependent on oil exports.

But many experts say the U.S. would be the big winner, in position to reshape its foreign policy and boost its global influence..."


How the US oil, gas boom could shake up global order - Open Channel



Ken
 
Old 04-01-2013, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Considering that that comment is coming from one of the crowd that's been wrong on virtually EVERY prediction (ie there has been NO dollar collapse, NO hyperinflation, the stock market HAS come roaring back, the UE rate HAS dropped and Obama WAS reelected) I'd have to disagree with your assessment of WHO are the "idiots".


Get back to us when you are actually RIGHT on something.

Ken
... and interest rates have not skyrocketed, as predicted by the WSJ editorial pages:

Quote:
May 29, 2009

The Bond Vigilantes

The Fed is desperate to keep mortgage rates low to reflate the housing market, and last week it promised to inject hundreds of billions of dollars more in this effort. This week the bond vigilantes are showing what they think of that offer, bidding up yields even higher. It's not going too far to say we are watching a showdown between Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and bond investors, otherwise known as the financial markets. When in doubt, bet on the markets.
Of course, they were 100% wrong. Rates fell, not rose:

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