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Old 03-29-2013, 10:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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What goes around, comes around.

Academics who were so pleased that their theories of how the world "should" run are finally being put in place, are as surprised as such people usually are to find their ideals don't work in the real world.

The only thing I wonder about is:

How many times do we have to keep trying this? How many repeats of people being shocked, shocked do we have to go through, before we can finally get back to doing things they ways they actually work?

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Confused professors shocked schools are cutting their hours to avoid Obamacare penalties

Marc Thiessen | January 23, 2013, 9:46 am

Barack Obama is a former adjunct professor of constitutional law, and no group has been more solidly supportive of his liberal agenda than the professorial class. So it is a sweet irony that the latest group getting hammered by the mandates of Obamacare are … wait for it … adjunct professors.

The Wall Street Journal reports:

The federal health-care overhaul is prompting some colleges and universities to cut the hours of adjunct professors. [...] The Affordable Care Act requires large employers to offer a minimum level of health insurance to employees who work 30 hours a week or more starting in 2014, or face a penalty. The mandate is a particular challenge for colleges and universities, which increasingly rely on adjuncts to help keep costs down as states have scaled back funding for higher education.




You can just imagine the outraged conversations in the faculty lounge now: “We’re professors. I thought stuff like this only happened to manual laborers at Wendy’s and Taco Bell!”

Looks like the academy is finally getting a lesson in the costs of big government liberalism.

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Old 03-29-2013, 10:36 AM
 
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LOL the irony is simply delicious!

Mr. Balla is a ****** idiot!

And the whole world laughs out loud!!!
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:44 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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And the whole world laughs out loud!!!
Except for the rest of the people whose hours are being cut back to avoid the same Obamacare penalties... and who knew before it was even passed, that it was a bad idea.

They're not laughing.

But, as a Federal employee in Fast&Furious said when informed that Americans would die if they let guns walk across the border as planned:

"You can't make a good omelet without breaking a few eggs."
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They didn't know the IRS would redefine full time so that employers would have to offer insurance.
Obamacare was passed with 40 hours being full time and part time workers exempt.

The government pulled a fast one last year and thought employers would roll over and comply.
They couldn't have been more wrong in that thinking.

FWIW a member of Congress has filed a bill to negate the IRS ruling and put 40 hours back as being full time status.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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This is an admission that the current situation doesn't work. The adjunct professor can't afford to buy insurance on his own, doesn't currently get health care coverage through work, and won't get coverage through work because they've cut his hours. Based on the numbers above (2000/40000) he's only working about 30-31 hours/week now and this will be cut to 29.
The only upside is that under the ACA he will get tax credits to make insurance affordable.

The ACA is a bastard compromise bill that adopted the Republicans individual mandate idea thinking that they would vote for it seeing as they liked it in the past. Didn't think that Republicans would flip on their own positions just to torpedo Obama. We would have been better off with a clean universal healthcare proposal.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:57 AM
 
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The bigger the mess the ACA is the closer we get to single payer.The sooner the better.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Billings, MT
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I still favor the creation of FOOMP! (the Federal Office Of Medical Payments).
Bureaucrats employed by FOOMP will be authorized to do one thing, and one thing ONLY: They will be able to write checks for the payment of the health care costs of United States Citizens (yes, ONLY United States CITIZENS!). Health care bills will be sent by the provider to the local FOOMP office for payment. The patient will never see the bill. There will be no co-pay of any kind, no deductible, FOOMP will pay 100% of the bill.
It can be funded by holding back some of the foreign aid that is sent overseas on a daily basis.
Or, it can be paid for from the same source as the "bail-out"!
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
 
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This is an admission that the current situation doesn't work. The adjunct professor can't afford to buy insurance on his own, doesn't currently get health care coverage through work, and won't get coverage through work because they've cut his hours. Based on the numbers above (2000/40000) he's only working about 30-31 hours/week now and this will be cut to 29.
The only upside is that under the ACA he will get tax credits to make insurance affordable.

The ACA is a bastard compromise bill that adopted the Republicans individual mandate idea thinking that they would vote for it seeing as they liked it in the past. Didn't think that Republicans would flip on their own positions just to torpedo Obama. We would have been better off with a clean universal healthcare proposal.
This is a balled faced lie.


NOT ONE TIME did republicans even pretend to be willing to vote for Obamacare. there was NEVER any input from Republicans on the bill and Democrats passed it with full knowlege that there was NO SUPPORT from the republican side.

This bill is 100% a democrat bill that is exactly what the democrats wanted.


Dont revise history and pretend the bill was somehow messed up because of Republicans.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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The bigger the mess the ACA is the closer we get to single payer.The sooner the better.
thank you for being honest.

this is exactly what Obama care was intended to be. a complete trainwreck so liberals can say "SEE I TOLD YOU SO" and then go to full on single payer.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Well these professors thought they were above all that obamacare stuff. They are also mostly liberals so have brain damage that causes them to think they are smarter than everybody else. What is happening is exactly what many have said would happen from the time this entire obamacare debate started and liberals are just shocked.
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