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Old 04-12-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Greg_IA View Post
Maybe we should all pay 15% to the federal government and tell them that is all they get, so spend it wisely.
Obama will never do that.

Obama said "middle class Americans will not pay one more dime in taxes".
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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You are a piece of work and can't even recognize it when your masters are tightening the noose. The liberal elitists are lowering the boom on citizens as they exempt themselves creating a ruling elitist class.


LOL, so the Repubs are the saviors of the middle class??? If you remove the word liberal you might be onto something. Obozo and Robme do not care about you.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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People like you whine that almost half the country pays no taxes, now you whine that Obama pays less than most of the country.

Which one is it?
People like you whine like babies when other people make more than you.

Oh and people who don't pay a dime in federal taxes cheering as Obama says make them pay their fair share. How's that work?
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:54 PM
 
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wow, you don't have a clue do you?
I just happen to have a different perspective than you. To me, taxing someone into "oblivion" doesn't mean paying more taxes than I would like, but, rather, paying so many taxes that it makes difficult for someone to pay for their necessities. A 20% rate on capital gains and dividend income exceeding 400,000 doesn't constitute such a hardship.

Keep in mind, the top marginal tax rate was 91% during WWII and throughout the 1950s, times of relatively strong economic growth.

And, no, while I may be a socialist, i do not support a tax rate as high as 91%.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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Neither does anyone else in politics, which is why the poor and the working class desperately need a political movement of their own. Poor people needed Dr King even more than black people, since other black leaders arose to continue the Dream, while nobody did the same for the poor.
Bernie Sanders is the only one in Washington who really cares about the average citizen.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:57 PM
 
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People like you whine like babies when other people make more than you.

Oh and people who don't pay a dime in federal taxes cheering as Obama says make them pay their fair share. How's that work?
Your status says "Obama, not one dime more in taxes" , yet you complain that half of Americans pay zero taxes.

Make up your mind.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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it won't work because you can't have one human beings work and pay 12 dollars an hour...remain in the same species and pay another human being 5,000 dollars an hour.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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I just happen to have a different perspective than you. To me, taxing someone into "oblivion" doesn't mean paying more taxes than I would like, but, rather, paying so many taxes that it makes difficult for someone to pay for their necessities. A 20% rate on capital gains and dividend income exceeding 400,000 doesn't constitute such a hardship.

Keep in mind, the top marginal tax rate was 91% during WWII and throughout the 1950s, times of relatively strong economic growth.

And, no, while I may be a socialist, i do not support a tax rate as high as 91%.
First, lets bring you up to date. We are in the year 2013. And you may be a socialist ... Churchill puts it best.

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

People who condone socialism are typically people who are failures in life.
People who believe leaders who promote socialism are typically ignorant of many things.
Because people who failed and then look to the government to take care of them believe in socialism are jealous and envious of the success of others.

FAIR: Make it a flat tax to make it fair. Everyone has skin in the game. The person who makes more money will pay more than the middle class and poor but you promote progressive taxation where some people don't pay a dime.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:58 PM
 
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A single person making 12 hour with no children almost certainly would pay income taxes, assuming they worked full time year round. The only exception would be if they itemized and claimed approximately 20,000 in itemized deductions, which is highly unlikely for someone making only $12 an hour.
Per the IRS, the average tax rate of those earning $32,396 is 1.85%, which equals half the nation.

The figures work out to 69 million people, paying a total of $19.5B income tax, for an average of tax liability of less than $.01 each.

Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Tax Foundation

Table 1.. And yes, the figures have changed since them, but because peoples incomes have gone down since then, I'd expect the totals to be even lower.
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Old 04-12-2013, 11:00 PM
 
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Your status says "Obama, not one dime more in taxes" , yet you complain that half of Americans pay zero taxes.

Make up your mind.
That would mean that the poster, doesnt rest in the 1/2 of the nation that doesnt pay taxes.. He is speaking for himself when he says not one dime more in taxes..

Here's your sign...
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