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Ah, I see. There are some states (I'm not sure which at the moment) that still arrest someone even if the killing was in self-defense.
The overall impact I'm trying to leave is that killing someone is still killing someones, regardless if it's justified or not.
Though I do thank you for clarifying the terminology for me.
Yes, some states do arrest for self defense. Even prosecute, out of hand. CA is famous for it. Laws that require you to give way, retreat, warn, what have you, are responsible for this. On the other hand, there are "castle doctrine" laws that give attackers no such latitude. The first such law, was implemented, right here in NV, by then, Washoe CO DA, Mills Lane. It was labeled the "Make my day" law, by the national media. I lived, half a block away, from the incident that sparked it all.
In NV, an armed citizen may use lethal force, to stop a violent felon from fleeing. There is no requirement to give ground, or warn, an intruder in your home, or on your property, when they are there in comission of a crime, that you are armed. Criminals take their chances. Period. Other states have adopted tbis, and it has been renamed the "Castle Doctrine".
The incident that set it all off, happened in 1986, at an apartment complex on Wrondel way in Reno. A string of almost nightly smash and grab burglaries had plagued the complex for two weeks. The manager armed himself, with a Beretta 92, and caught the perpetrators , in the act. They had smashed in the door to an apartment, and were in the process of fleeing the scene with their swag. The manager ordered them to stop, they threw what was in their hands at him and tried to flee. Both were shot, both lived, but were arrested, as was the manager. Mills Lane refused to prosecute tbe manager, prompting a left wing media blitz. 60 Minutes, all the big networks, Phil Donahue, you name it, went batsπit.
Mills didn't care, and neither did we Renoites. Soon after, the Make my Day law was passed. Mills Lane was THE most popular elected official, in the state, for decades. He is ould have been governor, a Congressman or Senator, whatever he wanted. He went on to be a NV Supreme Court Justice, prefering to keep his talents in NV.
After years of searching you actually have one case of a home owner not shooting himself, his wayward neihbor, or his wife. The home owner didn't let their kid chew a bullet on accident or on purpose. After lots of looking, you have cherry picked a story where things worked out the way you envision it should
Too bad that for every home owner who "defends" himself, a 100 die by accident or suicide (or more).
Also too bad, the home owner was shot (no news on status). Chances are everyone would be healthier if the home owner would of not had a weapon. Unless the home owner was a target (i.e. a gang member themselves/something)
Sir, you are inaccurate. There have been dozens of recent threads about a homeowner or a gun owner using their weapon in defense and not shooting themselves or an innocent person.
In fact I challenge your statement
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Too bad that for every home owner who "defends" himself, a 100 die by accident or suicide (or more).
After years of searching you actually have one case of a home owner not shooting himself, his wayward neihbor, or his wife. The home owner didn't let their kid chew a bullet on accident or on purpose. After lots of looking, you have cherry picked a story where things worked out the way you envision it should
Too bad that for every home owner who "defends" himself, a 100 die by accident or suicide (or more).
Also too bad, the home owner was shot (no news on status). Chances are everyone would be healthier if the home owner would of not had a weapon. Unless the home owner was a target (i.e. a gang member themselves/something)
I refuse to take those odds. If you are found in my house and you are not supposed to be here, I assume the worst and the laws of MS back me up on that. I will not ask your intentions. I will not retreat. I will do everything I have to do to keep me and my family safe.
At least the citizens if North Carolina won't have to pay for a trial and incarceration.
And for those who think I am cheering at the deaths of 2 people, it's not that simple. These two pieces of garbage chose to invade someone's home for whatever reason. They did so ARMED. They chose their own death. They could have chosen to stay at home, and watch tv, have a beer, and discuss the baseball season. They could have done laundry, played video games, dozens of things were available to them. They chose to commit an armed invasion of someone's home, and paid the ultimate consequence.
This was their choice. Choices have consequences, this time, the consequence was their lives.
If there were background checks, those home invaders probably would not have got their hands on guns and the entire home invasion would not have happened.
If there were background checks, those home invaders probably would not have got their hands on guns and the entire home invasion would not have happened.
Does it not occur to you that these guys could have stolen the weapons or have bought their guns from a black market or even some of their gang squad buddies?
Does it not occur to you that these guys could have stolen the weapons or have bought their guns from a black market or even some of their gang squad buddies?
Why would they buy guns from the black market? One can go to a gun show and buy a gun in broad daylight without any background check.
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The guns of Columbine were old and new. They were manufactured in three states, promoted by catalog and telemarketer, sold at small gun stores and large gun shows. But in the end, all four were sold anonymously to teenagers, no questions asked, no background checks, no purchase forms, no signatures.
Why would they buy guns from the black market? One can go to a gun show and buy a gun in broad daylight without any background check.]
>My point.
>Your head.
Obviously you didn't get it. The fact that their criminals means they could have gotten some guns at a gun show or they could have gotten some from their gangster buddies. They need not purchase firearms to get them.
If there were background checks, those home invaders probably would not have got their hands on guns and the entire home invasion would not have happened.
If you believe that, I have some money in Nigeria I need some help moving to the states. Just send me your bank account info and I'll give you a really big reward.
One can go to a gun show and buy a gun from a PRIVATE CITIZEN without a background check, just like ANY private transaction. If you buy from a licensed dealer, a background check is required.
What you are asking is that if I as a private citizen, decides to sell my old 6906 9mm at a gun show, that I should run a background check on the buyer?
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