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Old 04-25-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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My shocked face......
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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High speed rail costs about 3x regular rail.
Not only will it be expensive, but really, really expensive.

And then wait until each town along the way wants that rail to stop there slowing it down.
Ideally it would be express service only to major cities, downtown to downtown, and from downtown you'd take regular Amtrak commuter service out to the suburbs or to minor cities. Also the original alignment, which voters approved, went up the I5 freeway corridor as that would be a straight line for servicing the large coastal cities which will make up virtually all of the passenger traffic for the system. Sadly, Republicans, who opposed the train in public but demanded pork for their districts in private, have demanded the train go hundreds of miles to the east and zig-zag all around the map just to pick up each worthless legislator's district thus slowing down the whole network and worsening service for the money making SD-LA-SF route.

The system will sink or swim based upon the high traffic SD-LA-SF route but swinging up the central valley pretty much insures the system will be slow, long, and not worth the effort. The French national railway service (who already operates the TGV in France) said we should restore the original alignment up the I5 and forget about the crappy towns in red districts because they won't generate enough traffic to justify the costs. The French are right but, sadly, the alignment won't be changed because hypocritical politicians who oppose it in public are privately saying send it to my district or I'll vote against it.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Yep, and if they weren't spending their money to carry the rest of the poorer states in the country, they would be able to pay down that debt faster.

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carry the rest of the 'poorer' states


The BIGGEST US WELFARE STATES
State——-% of Pop on Welfare—–Spending on Welfare—-Total on Welfare—–Unemp

#1. California……………3.30%………………$3.28 BILLION………..1,212,893…….11.5%

texas also PRODUCES 40% of the ENERGY that California USES...yet

cali is the second biggest carbon emiter.....behind...texas


90% of water consumed in Cali...comes from arizonia

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Old 04-25-2013, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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and STILL a continuing DEBT (didnt say deficit) of over 28 billion (34 according to the article below)

CA Gov. Jerry Brown state budget deficit disappears but debt remains - Silicon Valley Business Journal

CA state budget deficit disappears, but debt remains
GDP $1.8 trillion
Debt (according to you) $34 billion.

Debt to GDP ratio: 0.018 or 1.8%.

Sorry, dude, but that's nothing to worry about.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:06 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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GDP $1.8 trillion
Debt (according to you) $34 billion.

Debt to GDP ratio: 0.018 or 1.8%.

Sorry, dude, but that's nothing to worry about.
yep '''nothing to worry about'''


isnt that what the liberals are saying about the national debt,,,currnetly at 16.7 trillion (100% of the countires GDP)


yep nothing to see here, move on
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:06 PM
 
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Iraq. Haliburton. Cheney. Shocker!
Haliburton. Clinton. Shocker

And when did Halliburton get its one and only 'no -bid' contract..1997 under CLINTON, and Halliburton (its subsidery KBR) has had the military contracts since LBJ

Blackwater's first contract 1999....under Clinton, Shocker, shocker!
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:09 PM
 
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As I said, if you have something more than a baseless accusation, state it. Otherwise you have nothing but innuendo.
Aren't you the one accusing the repubs of Crony Capitalism all the time?
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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are you on drugs???

carry the rest of the 'poorer' states


The BIGGEST US WELFARE STATES
State——-% of Pop on Welfare—–Spending on Welfare—-Total on Welfare—–Unemp

#1. California……………3.30%………………$3.28 BILLION………..1,212,893…….11.5%

texas also PRODUCES 40% of the ENERGY that California USES...yet

cali is the second biggest carbon emiter.....behind...texas


90% of water consumed in Cali...comes from arizonia
You've repeatedly used this nonsense before and you've repeatedly been corrected. That you continue to use it, knowing full well that it is incorrect, tells me that you are deliberately lying. Once again here is the map of states from smallest percentage on welfare to highest percentage of population on welfare. You'll notice California has one of the smaller percentages of population on welfare.

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Old 04-25-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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How dare they award the contract to the low bidder.
"How dare they award the contract to the low bidder"

I find it hilarious with all the complaints you have made about Halliburton.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:14 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Good to see Cali moving forward with high speed rail, I can't wait for it to be running all the way up and down the West Coast.
It will not run the whole coast. It will stop in LA.
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