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Old 04-28-2013, 03:25 PM
Status: "everybody getting reported now.." (set 17 days ago)
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I don't think I'm either. I certainly don't fully agree with either one. Both parties are bought and paid for and full of hypocrites.

D's want to legislate away my gun rights.
D's want to spend, spend, spend.
D's want to legislate away my marketplace choices.
D's don't want to enforce the border or immigration.
D's don't want to enforce the law.
What gun rights have D's tried to legislate away ?

Yes, D's spend, every politician spends. If you have an idea on how to balance the budget while not collapsing the economy, we would like to here it.

What marketplace choice have D's tried to legislate away ?

D's do in fact want to enforce the boarder, we just dont believe the Reagan approach to it works.

What law have democrats not enforced ?
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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What gun rights have D's tried to legislate away ?

Yes, D's spend, every politician spends. If you have an idea on how to balance the budget while not collapsing the economy, we would like to here it.

What marketplace choice have D's tried to legislate away ?

D's do in fact want to enforce the boarder, we just dont believe the Reagan approach to it works.

What law have democrats not enforced ?
I wouldn't bother trying to debate with him. When I see someone with those kind of "opinions" I just leave them be. I'm reminded of this Johnathon Swift quote:

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:39 PM
 
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Ok Democrats, here is your chance to prove he is.

List ONE bill proposed by him to push forward a capitalistic society.
Obama is not a capitalist, and neither are 99.5% of the population, even hardcore right wingers.

He sure looks out for them and does more for capitalists than you will ever do in 50 lifetimes.
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:42 PM
 
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What gun rights have D's tried to legislate away ?

Yes, D's spend, every politician spends. If you have an idea on how to balance the budget while not collapsing the economy, we would like to here it.

What marketplace choice have D's tried to legislate away ?

D's do in fact want to enforce the boarder, we just dont believe the Reagan approach to it works.

What law have democrats not enforced ?
I was speaking in generalities, but you can't be serious. Diane Feinstein and numerous other D's want to get rid of guns. In CA unless you are highly connected you aren't getting a permit.

If you have to rely on government spending to have an economy then you don't have much of an economy, especially if you have to borrow 40% of it.

Can you buy a 32 oz drink in NYC?

I'm not familiar with the Reagan approach. All I hear D's say is that we should embrace amnesty.

Gun laws for starters. Chicago, NYC, and LA came in dead last on gun prosecutions.
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:43 PM
 
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I was speaking in generalities, but you can't be serious. Diane Feinstein and numerous other D's want to get rid of guns. In CA unless you are highly connected you aren't getting a permit.

If you have to rely on government spending to have an economy then you don't have much of an economy, especially if you have to borrow 40% of it.

Can you buy a 32 oz drink in NYC?

I'm not familiar with the Reagan approach. All I hear D's say is that we should embrace amnesty.

Gun laws for starters. Chicago, NYC, and LA came in dead last on gun prosecutions.
Reagan wanted to ban guns also, I don't see you whining about Republicans. Reagan also enacted amnesty, yet no crying about R's
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:45 PM
 
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I wouldn't bother trying to debate with him. When I see someone with those kind of "opinions" I just leave them be. I'm reminded of this Johnathon Swift quote:

"It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into."
What opinions? Do you not think it is fair to evenly criticize political parties? Should I not call out hypocrisy?
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:49 PM
 
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reagan wanted to ban guns also, i don't see you whining about republicans. Reagan also enacted amnesty, yet no crying about r's
bs.

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Originally Posted by lycos679 View Post
i don't think i'm either. I certainly don't fully agree with either one. Both parties are bought and paid for and full of hypocrites.

D's want to legislate away my gun rights.
D's want to spend, spend, spend.
D's want to legislate away my marketplace choices.
D's don't want to enforce the border or immigration.
D's don't want to enforce the law.
r's want to legislate away my privacy.
R's want to borrow, borrow, borrow.
R's want to legislate away my social, personal choices.
R's don't want to heavily fine companies that hire illegals.
R's want a police state.
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:52 PM
 
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bs.
If you are going to post on a politics forum, you should know at least a little bit about politics, otherwise you come across as a jackass

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

Ford, Carter, Reagan Push for Gun Ban - Los Angeles Times
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Ok Democrats, here is your chance to prove he is.

List ONE bill proposed by him to push forward a capitalistic society.
The idea that President Obama, who bailed out the cornerstones of capitalism, the banks and the auto industry, has to prove he really, truly cross my heart and hope to die, is in favor of capitalism is hilarious. If Mr. Obama was the socialist his detractors claim, he would of nationalized the banks; seized all the stock of the auto companies and established a government run -- single-payer health care system. But Mr. Obama didn't. He chose the plan that the Heritage Foundation wrote 20 years ago. He probably would have nationalized the oil companies too, like Chavez did.

Obama’s Bank Bailout: Bush’s Plan Resurrected

Obama's small business tax cuts, explained - Sep. 24, 2012

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This is far from a new phenomenon – the use of "socialist" as a political epithet in the U.S. dates back to pre-Civil War days when abolitionist newspaper editor Horace Greeley was branded a socialist by some pro-slavery adversaries. In the 20th century, many elements of Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal – including Social Security – were denounced as socialist. So was Medicare when it was created in the 1960s.

But to many historians and political scientists – and to actual socialists as well – the persistent claim that Obama is a socialist lacks credence.

He's widely seen as a pragmatist within the Democratic Party mainstream who's had ample success raising campaign funds from wealthy Wall Street capitalists. Even some of his strongest critics acknowledge that his administration hasn't sought one of the classic forms of socialism – government control of the nation's means of production.

Terence Ball, a political scientist at Arizona State University, said "socialist' has gained currency as an anti-Obama slur because "the `L' word (liberal) has lost it shock value."
Obama 'Socialist' Claim Persists On Right Despite Inaccuracies
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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If you are going to post on a politics forum, you should know at least a little bit about politics, otherwise you come across as a jackass

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

Ford, Carter, Reagan Push for Gun Ban - Los Angeles Times
Did I or did I not show that I criticize R's as well as D's?

Follow the postings, otherwise you come across as a jackass.

Btw I'm not in favor of discriminatory laws, Reagan's gun control laws were targeted towards African Americans.
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