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Old 05-04-2013, 07:34 AM
 
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...and then Obama will be blamed for that.

It's Obama derangement syndrome. Obama is to blame for everything....people retiring, losing one sock in a pair, the rain.
^ ^This. My cat peed outside her litter box this morning. Somehow I'm sure it's a direct result of having a lying, socialist, Muslim Kenyan in the White House who's hell bent on destroying America by raising taxes, increasing immigration, hating Christianity, not creating new jobs, spending all of our money, meeting with the president of Mexico, pushing the gay agenda, and playing 10 seconds of hip hop at a public event. It was all just too much for her little cat bladder to take. Damn you Obama!!!

 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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Darn those baby boomers retiring. We should chain them to the desk and force them to keep working!
Many would love to but cannot find work. I, personally, know three people who have taken early retirements because they could not find a job who would rather be working. Do not assume that all retirements were voluntary. When you're 62 and you've been out of work for two years, taking SS early can be a way to keep eating.

People retiring before they are ready is a HUGE problem because they will, eventually, run out of money and then society will have to step in. I'm 54 and losing my job in June. If I cannot find work, I will have no choice but to tap my IRA (used up my emergency savings last time I lost my job to a downsizing in 2007 and I've been working for half my former salary since 2008 so I've been unable to build that safety net back up.). I am not ready to retire at 54 and don't want to but I'm having no luck finding work. The companies that are hiring, want new grads not people with silver hair. I figure my IRA will last me 5 years (with the tax penalties for having to tap it early) before I have to sell the house and go live on a beach somewhere in the south.

Don't joke about this. Some of us baby boomers are in a world of hurt over the timing of losing jobs and being unable to find a new one. I, for one, have no idea how I'll get from 54 to 62 (the earlist I can get anything from social security - no pension because the company I worked for for 17 years went bankrupt). The $400K I have in my IRA is nowhere near enough if I cannot find work.

I am very concerned as I've watched three friends give up. They, fortunately, are a little older than me, and closer to when they intended to retire, or have spouses who are working (my dh is retiring this year - no choice as his company is closing (he has no pension because his company doesn't offer one)). I don't know what I'm going to do if I can't find work with two kids in college.

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Old 05-04-2013, 07:37 AM
 
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The socialist turd in the WH ruining America!

9.5 Million People Have Left the Workforce Under Obama | CNS News
So you want Obama to make old people keep working?
 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Eastern PA
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Don’t be fooled into looking at the Dow as your economic barometer. That’s for the lazy, the amateurs, the armchair partisan economists.”
I'm not being fooled. But I would say that the Dow being up (in general) for several years at least somewhat points to our economy not being in the toilet, no?
There is a general hysteric rant from some posters on here that Obama is a socialist. He isn't really and everyone deep down knows that. One may not like him but he is not dragging this country down. I'm not an expert in the least at economics and won't pretend to know as much as perhaps you do about the subject. But my personal experience and the experience of most of my friends and family is that we are doing fine. I realize that may not translate to everybody or to the country but everyone that can think straight knows that America is not headed to hell in a hand basket.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The socialist turd in the WH ruining America!

9.5 Million People Have Left the Workforce Under Obama | CNS News

... really hate good economic news.

April Jobs Report: Recovery Continues - ABC News

 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The socialist turd in the WH ruining America!

9.5 Million People Have Left the Workforce Under Obama | CNS News
I plan to leave one day too, but I don't plan to thank the president who happens to be in the office at that time.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Are you saying all those that left the workforce retired ?

Of all the people receiving SS payments, only 60% of them actually retired.
The rest did not retire and are receiving other forms of SS.

Social Security Administration: Social Security Basic Facts
Your link is for year 2012. The OP is since February 2009.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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I'm not being fooled. But I would say that the Dow being up (in general) for several years at least somewhat points to our economy not being in the toilet, no?
There is a general hysteric rant from some posters on here that Obama is a socialist. He isn't really and everyone deep down knows that. One may not like him but he is not dragging this country down. I'm not an expert in the least at economics and won't pretend to know as much as perhaps you do about the subject. But my personal experience and the experience of most of my friends and family is that we are doing fine. I realize that may not translate to everybody or to the country but everyone that can think straight knows that America is not headed to hell in a hand basket.
If Obama was a Republican they would be wanting his face on Mount Rushmore for taking out bin laden and turning the economy around, but he's a Democrat. That means the mere mentioning of his name causes righties to foam at the mouth and start spouting off nonsense.
 
Old 05-04-2013, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Your link is for year 2012. The OP is since February 2009.
37 million in 2013
33 million in 2009

Those are just "retired" numbers.

Only 4 million actually "retired".


Annual Statistical Supplement, 2010 - Summary of OASDI Benefits in Current-Payment Status (5.A)

Interesting note though in that same timeframe over 2 million became disabled.

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Old 05-04-2013, 08:08 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ed Abby View Post
I'm not being fooled. But I would say that the Dow being up (in general) for several years at least somewhat points to our economy not being in the toilet, no?
There is a general hysteric rant from some posters on here that Obama is a socialist. He isn't really and everyone deep down knows that. One may not like him but he is not dragging this country down. I'm not an expert in the least at economics and won't pretend to know as much as perhaps you do about the subject. But my personal experience and the experience of most of my friends and family is that we are doing fine. I realize that may not translate to everybody or to the country but everyone that can think straight knows that America is not headed to hell in a hand basket.
Again, pointing to one number is never a smart idea. As I said don’t be fooled into looking at the Dow as your economic barometer. That’s for the lazy, the amateurs, the armchair partisan economists.
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