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Old 05-09-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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The guy runs a small business selling party stuff with 100 employees.
He can afford to offer HMO to his 20 managers but that's it.
He's already figured he cannot raise prices because no one will pay $2 per balloon for a party.
I doubt he's raking in as much as JPMorgan's CEO.

But continue on with your rant about the level of "corrupt wealth".

Newsflash..the employers most likely to be paying this fine will be small to medium businesses. That's 60% of where your jobs come from.

Sorry but corrupt wealth is running rampant in the U$. Denying it won't change that. The fact that so many good folks are suddenly struggling and hurting would indicate to most people that something is wrong, wouldn't it?
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:52 PM
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Location: Florida
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Are you planning to nuke Brazil, China, India, and Russia?
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Sorry but corrupt wealth is running rampant in the U$. Denying it won't change that. The fact that so many good folks are suddenly struggling and hurting would indicate to most people that something is wrong, wouldn't it?
That would burst their fantasy of One Nation Under Gold.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Article: Execs' cushy health care plans could be discriminatory | Pensacola News Journal | pnj.com

Another great example of the self-centered myopia suffered by those who actively oppose economic justice. Steve Diddams couldn't fathom the fact that his other 80 employees are no different from his managerial employees in terms of their healthcare needs and that of the families that they support. There is no excuse - none - for treating his hourly worker as sub-humans, as he is. He is still able to pay them differently - it's about time that we no longer allow him to treat them differently with regard to healthcare.

but - hmm - we pay certain people more based on ability. Health care plans are compensation for work, like salary. Not sure the surprise here.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Sorry but corrupt wealth is running rampant in the U$. Denying it won't change that. The fact that so many good folks are suddenly struggling and hurting would indicate to most people that something is wrong, wouldn't it?
Because they cannot use their home as an ATM anymore.
All that was doing was giving people the faux illusion they were wealthy.
Now we're back to reality and having to live based on your paycheck, not the overblown value of your home.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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LOL Well as far as my personal situation, I've been semi retired now for a few years, paid for my own health insurance, recently moved to Australia where I volunteer helping to rebuild after the devastating floods there, in addition to putting my recent pharmacy tech schooling to good use there. I paid my own way for everything, mate,, no help from anyone. I doubt even your "heroes" can say that. But regardless I contribute a lot of value to society here in Oz, through my own sweat and money. Not exactly the type that thinks the world owes them huh? Nice try though. At least here in Oz, the concept of fairness is still alive.
Wow, you sure sound greedy, paying your own way and all... After all, thats exactly what you accused me of doing
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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Sorry but corrupt wealth is running rampant in the U$. Denying it won't change that. The fact that so many good folks are suddenly struggling and hurting would indicate to most people that something is wrong, wouldn't it?
The federal government is spending over $45,000 PER FAMILY of 4 in the USA, clearly somethings wrong, but its not the people, nor is it businesses, many of which are struggling due to all of this excess spending.

But then you dont live here, isnt it wonderful you can play wa wa wa, you should spend more, all the way over there where the policies have absolute no effect on you?
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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Health care plans are compensation for work, like salary.

They have been in the past, but that seems to be changing.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:58 PM
 
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The guy runs a small business selling party stuff with 100 employees.
He can afford to offer HMO to his 20 managers but that's it.
He's already figured he cannot raise prices because no one will pay $2 per balloon for a party.
I doubt he's raking in as much as JPMorgan's CEO.

But continue on with your rant about the level of "corrupt wealth".

Newsflash..the employers most likely to be paying this fine will be small to medium businesses. That's 60% of where your jobs come from.
100 employees and 20 of them are managers? That's a pretty top heavy staffing arrangement for a store. Maybe if he had fewer managers, he would be able to provide health insurance to his employees.

Access to affordable health care can be a matter of life and death, yet some seem to think that employers should employ people full time and not offer that "benefit" to the full time employees.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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100 employees and 20 of them are managers? That's a pretty top heavy staffing arrangement for a store. Maybe if he had fewer managers, he would be able to provide health insurance to his employees.

Access to affordable health care can be a matter of life and death, yet some seem to think that employers should employ people full time and not offer that "benefit" to the full time employees.
Well that's the point of Obamacare. Government will sell you health insurance now.
Line up. No more need for employer based health insurance with group rates. You should be cheering.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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100 employees and 20 of them are managers? That's a pretty top heavy staffing arrangement for a store. Maybe if he had fewer managers, he would be able to provide health insurance to his employees.

Access to affordable health care can be a matter of life and death, yet some seem to think that employers should employ people full time and not offer that "benefit" to the full time employees.
My mistake..he said "managerial workers" which would include bookkeepers and such.
That doesn't sound like a lot for 7 stores.
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