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Old 05-09-2013, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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The federal government is spending over $45,000 PER FAMILY of 4 in the USA, clearly somethings wrong, but its not the people, nor is it businesses, many of which are struggling due to all of this excess spending.

But then you dont live here, isnt it wonderful you can play wa wa wa, you should spend more, all the way over there where the policies have absolute no effect on you?

Not sure I recall telling anyone to spend more, just maybe be a bit more fair, or maybe curb the greed a bit. Speaking of, I also don't recall calling you greedy personally, but rather asked why people support and blindly defend those that are. The reason why I follow how things go over in the U$, is because as an American citizen, it hurts me to see the once great America I used to love, and enlisted to serve, become so bad,so quickly.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:43 PM
 
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And these companies will simply increase the compensation of the execs to defray the cost of the increase.

If you want social justice, just have your kid carjack the exec on his way home.
Social justice would be when the carjacker takes a bullet to the brain.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:50 PM
 
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Not sure I recall telling anyone to spend more, just maybe be a bit more fair, or maybe curb the greed a bit. Speaking of, I also don't recall calling you greedy personally, but rather asked why people support and blindly defend those that are. The reason why I follow how things go over in the U$, is because as an American citizen, it hurts me to see the once great America I used to love, and enlisted to serve, become so bad,so quickly.
If you say people wanting to keep their money is greed, (what an asinine thought process one must have to come to that conclusion) then what exactly do you suppose they do with their money?
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:58 PM
 
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Liberalism. See the OP if you want to understand how utterly worthless the ideology really is. Failed people following a failed social construct. I feel sorry that so many people are of such low intelligence.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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For Mr. Diddams, the solution is unfortunately to cut the hours of his non-management employees below 30 per week, so that they are no longer covered by the law.
The majority of non management retail and restaurant employees have always been part time workers.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:38 AM
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Location: Florida
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Health care plans are compensation for work, like salary.
Healthcare shouldn't be like salary:
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Access to affordable health care can be a matter of life and death
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Well that's the point of Obamacare.
ACA is only part of the equation: ACA just makes healthcare affordable for the working poor. It doesn't remedy myriad injustices in our economy, and with regard to overall costs, it only brings attention to the excessive profits that some sectors extract from the economy, it doesn't address the excessive profits which unnecessarily drives up the costs that everyone is currently paying.

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I feel sorry that so many people are of such low intelligence.
What does it say about a political philosophy when all one can come up with in the context of a thread like this is spewing self-aggrandizing and self-gratifying nonsense about the intelligence of others? We're all equally intelligent here, as far as you know - we different only in morality, i.e., whether we care only about our own selves, or whether we practice moral consideration for others as per the golden rule.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Healthcare shouldn't be like salary:

ACA is only part of the equation: ACA just makes healthcare affordable for the working poor. It doesn't remedy myriad injustices in our economy, and with regard to overall costs, it only brings attention to the excessive profits that some sectors extract from the economy, it doesn't address the excessive profits which unnecessarily drives up the costs that everyone is currently paying.

What does it say about a political philosophy when all one can come up with in the context of a thread like this is spewing self-aggrandizing and self-gratifying nonsense about the intelligence of others? We're all equally intelligent here, as far as you know - we different only in morality, i.e., whether we care only about our own selves, or whether we practice moral consideration for others as per the golden rule.
ACA is not healthcare. It's health INSURANCE.
There is no guarantee of any CARE in that bill.

ACA is government mandated, subsidized health insurance.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:03 AM
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Location: Florida
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Health insurance, which its subscribers use to secure healthcare.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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Article: Execs' cushy health care plans could be discriminatory | Pensacola News Journal | pnj.com

Another great example of the self-centered myopia suffered by those who actively oppose economic justice. Steve Diddams couldn't fathom the fact that his other 80 employees are no different from his managerial employees in terms of their healthcare needs and that of the families that they support. There is no excuse - none - for treating his hourly worker as sub-humans, as he is. He is still able to pay them differently - it's about time that we no longer allow him to treat them differently with regard to healthcare.
Needs =/= compensation. Not every worker is worth that much compensation.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Healthcare shouldn't be like salary:
Healthcare compensation is just that. Free Market health care is just another part of the free market. If you want to socialize health care and offer it for everyone, then that part of the market becomes socialism. Not something a number of people want in this country.
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