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30 years ago, Christie would have been considered a center-right Republican. Today, since the Republican Party has moved far right, is considered somewhat liberal (even though he likes to slash taxes and reduce government) to current Republicans.
It's really a matter of how extremist the GOP has become. Rockefeller was a centrist when he was NYS governor and VP of the U.S. Today, the GOP would call him a flaming liberal.
Amen. Christie is to the right of Bob Dole. The wing nuts have redefined the asylum and now they lack a plurality of possible electoral votes.
Only a fool would be dismissive of American's most popular governor, by an overwhleming margin.
The Christie histronics demonstrate why the GOP is a dinosaur watching the country change, powerless to stop their party's demise.
No, they are the same in that they both had to lie and pretend to be Republican conservatives when in fact neither of them are.
That's the typical opinion of someone who is far right. I can't speak for Governor Bloomberg, but Governor Chris Christie just isn't the nutjob that most on the far right are looking for. The far right, just like the far left, has their heads so far stuck up their asses that they think that everything is black and white. As a result, we're getting candidates like Obama and Romney. Since the far right is just a little bit more crazy, people like Obama get to be in the house. It's sick.
Can you give me an example of these "Marxist ways?" Because since 2009, all I have seen were centrist policies. Even his health care plan was a GOP idea from the 1990s.
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Obama is and always has been a socialist. Just because someone said that some parts of Obama care had some elements that were floated by some republican thinktanks does not mean, the HC plan was a "GOP Idea"
Stop obfuscating.
I asked for examples and what do I get back? A repeat of the same assertion sans the examples I requested. We must conclude that there are no examples.
On health care, not only did the Heritage Foundation thinktank write it in the 1990s but it was endorsed by prominent GOP heavyweights.
“In 1993, in fighting ‘Hillarycare,’ virtually every conservative saw the mandate as a less dangerous future than what Hillary was trying to do,” Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House, said at a debate in December, casting his past support of a mandate as an antidote to the health care overhaul proposed by Hillary Rodham Clinton during her husband’s administration.
As a result, we're getting candidates like Obama and Romney. Since the far right is just a little bit more crazy, people like Obama get to be in the house. It's sick.
Obama won because Americans always vote in the most centrist option, and the wing nut puppet Romney pretended to be to appease the true Tea Potty fringe represented the less centrist option.
While the fringe likes to say Reagan as if the hard right won, they gloss over "Morning in America" was a centrist campaign theme, Reagan raised taxes 9 times, had a deal with PATCO that was his plan-not a mass firing,and both Carter and Mondale were far, far left of Obama. Again, the most centrist option won.
Just like always. Kool-aid types never win, as Joe Scarborough said in a pc way, "Crazies never win".
You're a Progressive(regressive?) Democrat Christie. You're not fooling anyone.
Stinking rinos.
I am a Republican, I am a conservative but not Tea Party conservative and I do think of him as a Republican. Is he a true conservative? No, he is on fiscal issues though. I think more than a good Republican or a RINO, he is a true lover of his state and probably the country. He sometimes, just tells it a little too much the way he sees it. Class, he doesn't have a lot of and that is probably what bothers me.
Why? Because Christie might be a bridge to partisan divide?
I know you right wing people hate working with the left, but you're going to have a need to overcome partisanship to get things moving again.
Nope. The best thing that has happened to this country since 2008 was when the GOP took control of the House in 2011. The absolute LAST thing that Republicans want is for Obama and his sock-puppet Reid to push their Marxist agenda on the American people. Which is why the GOP are giving Obama a taste of what Democrat obstructionism was like under Bush.
If you do not like it, that is too damn bad. What goes around, comes around.
Nope. The best thing that has happened to this country since 2008 was when the GOP took control of the House in 2011. The absolute LAST thing that Republicans want is for Obama and his sock-puppet Reid to push their Marxist agenda on the American people. Which is why the GOP are giving Obama a taste of what Democrat obstructionism was like under Bush.
If you do not like it, that is too damn bad. What goes around, comes around.
Well, we'll see what happens in 2014, if the tea party can keep a toe hold your GOP or get thrown out on their ears.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is swatting down criticism from GOP ranks that he isn’t conservative enough, saying in an interview airing Friday that he’s a “damn good Republican.”
I posted on two other threads that Christie vetoing the NJ gay marriage bill shows he is trying to move to the right and at least quell opposition within the cultural conservative bloc within the GOP. If he can pass their social issue litmus tests (ie opposing gay rights and abortion..the big two...) he might have a chance at this particular GOP voting bloc.
So expect to see more of this from Christie, moving to the right to ensure his GOP bonafides.
I posted on two other threads that Christie vetoing the NJ gay marriage bill shows he is trying to move to the right and at least quell opposition within the cultural conservative bloc within the GOP. If he can pass their social issue litmus tests (ie opposing gay rights and abortion..the big two...) he might have a chance at this particular GOP voting bloc.
So expect to see more of this from Christie, moving to the right to ensure his GOP bonafides.
I think he'll be willing to be conservative on such issues because he knows that it will have little impact on NJ. NJ is a blue state at the end of the day. He's taking a stance in the right direction where he can make an impact: standing up against unions. cutting spending, etc.
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