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Old 05-12-2013, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Conservatives has traditionally controlled the money in North America for most of the last century. Now with liberal creep taking place - liberals have not infiltrated the banks and the IRS...of course they are going to attempt to take down what they consider the old guard.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Conservatives has traditionally controlled the money in North America for most of the last century. Now with liberal creep taking place - liberals have not infiltrated the banks and the IRS...of course they are going to attempt to take down what they consider the old guard.
Correction- liberals has infiltrated the banks and tax department...I have seen these bureaucrats on my side of the border. If there is the slightest hint that you might be conservative minded they will take it personally - and they will attempt to cripple you financially.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think they should target every group for a very serious review that has a primarily political purpose.
Yeah but they didn't. It was conservative groups only. And now groups that were pro-Israel.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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So the Cons are upset that they too can get audited?
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:24 PM
 
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Imagine the howls of outrage had the IRS during a Republican administration been caught similarly targeting liberal groups.
Not just targeting them, but targeting them at the beginning of a presidential election cycle, and interfering with their ability to effectively participate. This Chicago politics is some ugly stuff. Karl Rove must be jealous.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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Yep, going after Jewish groups too. Seems the only reason they came forward was to try and control the story. The ***** was fixing to hit the fan.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:26 PM
 
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Not just targeting them, but targeting them at the beginning of a presidential election cycle, and interfering with their ability to effectively participate. This Chicago politics is some ugly stuff. Karl Rove must be jealous.
Great point.

This is anti-1st Amendment and anti-Democracy.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:41 PM
 
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Not just targeting them, but targeting them at the beginning of a presidential election cycle, and interfering with their ability to effectively participate. This Chicago politics is some ugly stuff. Karl Rove must be jealous.
That's the point though--they CAN'T participate in an election cycle if they're a 501(c)3 organization--they can't participate AT ALL in any kind of campaign activities. The only thing they could have done would be non-partisan voter registration (like sitting in front of a grocery store and registering EVERYONE, D's and R's alike) or holding completely non-partisan candidate debates, like the League of Women voters. Even then, they couldn't bias the questions to one party or another. That's not what they were going to do. The timing is meaningless.

The big advantage of a 501(c)3 status is that the organization not only doesn't pay taxes on it's income, but unlike other non-profit designations, the donors get to write whatever they give you off their taxes as a charitable contribution. That's why the IRS is so strict about the NO POLITICAL work rule.

If they wanted to do election activities, they should have registered as a PAC. That's the kind of work it looks like they were intending to do, but then their donors couldn't deduct their contributions--they may have been trying to pull a fast one. Were liberal groups registering to do campaign work as 501(c)3's? If they were, and they were approved, it's a problem. If not, the tea party groups may have been singled out and flagged because of the type of group they were all applying to be in contrast to the organizations that they are. You can't be candidate or campaign oriented and have that tax exempt status.

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Old 05-12-2013, 07:46 PM
 
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Great point.

This is anti-1st Amendment and anti-Democracy.
Oh good lord. Do a little reading on what a 501(c)3 organization can or can't do in terms of campaign work and candidates, and then get back to me.
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Old 05-12-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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So do you have a link that explains more or is this one where everyone needs to research your points for you?
I provided the source. Do you know how to use Google?
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