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Old 05-13-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I think the age of consent ought to be 13, as it is in Spain, or possibly 14, as it was in Canada until 2007.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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I think the age of consent ought to be 13, as it is in Spain, or possibly 14, as it was in Canada until 2007.

Hey djacques... can you explain why you feel that way?
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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You seem to think 15 is old enough for a girl to say no. How old is old enough for a boy to say no when the girl is saying not just yes but now.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Hey djacques... can you explain why you feel that way?
Not being religious, I attach no special value to sexual abstinence or virginity; and I favor more freedom over less, in general (all things being equal, the fewer laws there are, the better). Spain and Canada do not seem to have problems related to their lower ages.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You seem to think 15 is old enough for a girl to say no. How old is old enough for a boy to say no when the girl is saying not just yes but now.
A teenage boy's pants hit the floor before a girl can finish the word "yes."
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:56 AM
 
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What......? a Budweiser hat?
hahaha... admittedly, I only drink imports..

I'm actually a social moderate. As pointed out, I do have a dog in this fight as I have a 3 year old daughter. That being said, I totally think children that are 15 are old enough to say no and understand consequences.

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My father was definitely a conservative, he hated Richard J. Daley and the Machine's guts with a passion.
Any place you go has rules, be it here, a store, a gas station, some people like to bend 'em.
You said 15 is old enough to know when to say no, in how you alluded to it.

I think youngsters these days are old enough to say no, but do it anyways because they're using a pill. What some don't practice is that the pill doesn't protect them from STD's. But, education should begin at a early age. My public elementary school in Chicago was teaching about sex in I believe the 7th. or 8th. grade, it was called, I believe, social studies.

I'd found that my daughter @ 15 was using birth control pills. She was going on 35 and thought she knew everything there is to know.
Bending rules is ok, I don't have issues with that. it's part of life.

But when the government is implicit in childrens ability to do so...but I don't agree with the state setting an imaginary line where kids have a fully developed center of gravity in their brains..and then on the flipside of the same token...circumvent their own determination.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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Telling your daughter she is going to purge a life, instead of prevent one from happening should be all the talk you need to have unless you have a rather dumb child.
Plan B does no such thing. It prevents fertilization from happening. So there is no "life" involved, unless you think just an egg can become a fetus without the sperm.

Before you argue about "purge a life" you may want to know EXACTLY what that pill does first.
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Old 05-13-2013, 11:58 AM
 
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You seem to think 15 is old enough for a girl to say no. How old is old enough for a boy to say no when the girl is saying not just yes but now.
Why would I hold a different standard for a boy than a girl?
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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Not being religious, I attach no special value to sexual abstinence or virginity; and I favor more freedom over less, in general (all things being equal, the fewer laws there are, the better). Spain and Canada do not seem to have problems related to their lower ages.
To be fair, I don't think you have to be religious to attach that value. I am an Agnostic and I don't want my children having sex @ 13.

Even though, I am confident enough that I can stress the importance of critical though to my children effectively to make the age of consent a non issue.
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Old 05-13-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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To be fair, I don't think you have to be religious to attach that value. I am an Agnostic and I don't want my children having sex @ 13.
You dont have to be religious to hold that value, but without a religious anchor it simply stands as a personal preference, of no more civic significance than anyone else's.
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