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Old 06-06-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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She won't have to testify in Benghazi hearings now.
you are correct, and feel, that is the reason he chose her.
extremely calculated and clever on his part, don't you think?
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Old 06-06-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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She won't have to testify in Benghazi hearings now.
Didn't they do the same with those F&F high level staffers ? Some retired and others got "promoted" to new jobs at the DOJ.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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She put forth a scenario that was completely untrue. The scenario she put forth was known to be untrue at the time of her story telling.

Therefore, she LIED. Lie: "an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood."
The scenario Susan Rice put forth was the scenario that the CIA was saying was the CIA's best assessment at the time (5 days after) and it was CIA facilities that were attacked. There was no basis for Susan Rice to contradict the CIA assessment 5 days after the attack.

If the CIA knew it to be untrue then question should be why was the CIA providing other departments and agencies an untruthful assessment.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The scenario Susan Rice put forth was the scenario that the CIA was saying was the CIA's best assessment at the time (5 days after) and it was CIA facilities that were attacked. There was no basis for Susan Rice to contradict the CIA assessment 5 days after the attack.

If the CIA knew it to be untrue then question should be why was the CIA providing other departments and agencies an untruthful assessment.
Paetreus said he wasn't happy with the final version but approved it anyway.

Maybe, with the election so close, the need to downplay the "terrorist attack" part was a priority could be a good reason.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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Rice is a true believer or "fellow traveler" like in the good old days with the Left.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Paetreus said he wasn't happy with the final version but approved it anyway.

Maybe, with the election so close, the need to downplay the "terrorist attack" part was a priority could be a good reason.
Petraeus may have been unhappy about the final version of the talking points, but the original version put out by the CIA contained all the language, information and analysis that people now claim were lies: spontaneous attack, inspired by events in Cairo (ie video), and mixed crowd only some of whom were extremists or terrorists.

One of the points that Petraeus was unhappy about being deleted from the final version was the CIA's warning on the 10th to the embassy in Cairo about possible attacks related "social media", ie dropping a reference to the video.

The primary difference between the original version of the CIA talking points and the final version concerning who participated in the attack was the specificity of who were the extremists. Should they be named specifically. There are multiple valid reasons for not naming them 5 days after the attack. I believe there was little or no advantage to the campaign in not naming them 5 days after the attack.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:07 AM
 
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Paetreus said he wasn't happy with the final version but approved it anyway.
Haven't you always wondered if David Petraeus wasnt being blackmailed? That whole mess sure was convenient for the Obama administration and right in line with Obama's ability to get sealed documents unsealed to embarrass political opponents.
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:19 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The scenario Susan Rice put forth was the scenario that the CIA was saying was the CIA's best assessment at the time (5 days after) and it was CIA facilities that were attacked. There was no basis for Susan Rice to contradict the CIA assessment 5 days after the attack.

If the CIA knew it to be untrue then question should be why was the CIA providing other departments and agencies an untruthful assessment.
No, it really wasn't but you keep on putting up the talking points anyway okay?
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:24 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Paetreus said he wasn't happy with the final version but approved it anyway.

Maybe, with the election so close, the need to downplay the "terrorist attack" part was a priority could be a good reason.
Umm, I don't believe he signed them actually.
Also there's this report:
Rice's defenders have since insisted she was merely basing her statements on the intelligence at the time.
But a source said Rice had access to both classified and unclassified information on Benghazi. Rep King said the administration has "hidden behind" the claim that Rice was only using the intelligence community's best assessment. But he said Petraeus' testimony suggests their best assessment conflicted with what Rice said on Sept. 16.


Read more: Intel officials unable to say who changed CIA talking points on Libya, lawmaker says | Fox News

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Petraeus rejected the final version as “useless” — and then threw the issue to the White House.
ABC: Petraeus called final Benghazi talking points “useless” the day before Rice’s full Ginsburg; Update: Transcript added
POSTED AT 11:01 AM ON MAY 12, 2013 BY ED MORRISSEY
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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No, it really wasn't but you keep on putting up the talking points anyway okay?
In what material way did Susan Rice's comments on the Sunday following the attack disagree with what the CIA was saying?

The CIA was saying spontaneous attack, mixed crowd with extremists in the crowd, and inspired by events in Cairo (video).
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