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Old 05-21-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I keep hearing rumors that the Fed Govt will start spending money to prepare states for the next weather disaster, using the horrific disaster over the last few days in Oklahoma as a prod.

I've already given money to the Red Cross to help with the Oklahoma tonado disaster. If a disaster ever happens to California (earthquake etc.) I'm sure Oklahomans will be just as generous - they've seen their share of such things, even beyond this present ones.

But about spending Federal money to prepare for the next one, whether in Oklahoma, California,or anywhere else in the country....

...sorry, Oklahoma, we can't. There isn't any more money.

We've already spend ourselves into a half-trillion-plus deficit for just this year alone. And we've been doing it for so long, that we've spent every penny we could hope to earn in the next YEAR. Including food, shelter, all therest, for every citizen in the U.S. We've spent everything we had, and then we've borrowed more than sixteen TRILLION, and spent all of that, too.

Every man, woman, and child in the country owes $54,000. Adn that's just the debt for what we've already spent. For what we've promised to spend in the future (Social Security, Medicare etc.), the bill is something like three or four times that. And we CAN'T get out of it. We must pay, and pretty soon. BTW, not every man, woman, and child works and earns money here. So a family of four that has one (or maybe two) breadwinners, owes more than $200,000 already. And that's BEFORE the Fed spends even more tomorrow. And the next day. And when you throw in the stuff we've promised to pay in the future (within our lifetimes)... well, you're talking a cool million or more. That EVERY family must pay. And if you feel that "the poor" shouldn't have to pay it, that means YOU have to pay your entire share PLUS THEIRS.

Sorry, folks. There isn't any more money. Even if we were attacked by some aggressive nation in a full-blown World War, about all we could do is surrender, because we'd run out of fuel, ammo, and even food and uniforms for the troops, to say nothing of warships, planes, jeeps, tanks and everything else we'd need to fight. Maybe we could throw rocks at the enemy, we still have lots of those.

Well, we aren't QUITE at that stage. But we're awfully close. And we'd have to be insane to move any closer.

So for anything short of a clear and present threat to our national existence.... sorry, tornado victims. There isn't any more money.

You Oklahomans will have to build your own storm shelters. And Californians will have to reinforce your buildings against quakes, on your own dime. And folks along the Mississippi, Missoouri, and those other rivers that usually flood if they haven't done so already... better start filling your own sandbags (after paying for them yourselves)... or learn to swim. The Fed govt can't help any more... because they've already spent all the money on other things. There isn't any more.

Get the message? It doesn't matter how much others might want to help, or how much you deserve to be helped.

Ther isn't any more money. And all the deserving or suffering in the world, won't change that fact.

We're tapped out, and can't help any more, no matter how much we want to. Period.

Sorry.

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Old 05-21-2013, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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Well they have to take your money.

Something horrible happened. There is a knee jerk reaction, and SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE!!!! not thought out, not planned out, but we need action and we need it now! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!


Look at the recent gun situations....
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Well they have to take your money.
Sorry, none left.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:20 AM
 
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I keep hearing rumors that the Fed Govt will start spending money to prepare states for the next weather disaster, using the horrific disaster over the last few days in Oklahoma as a prod<snip>
Let's talk about it when and if it is no longer a rumor.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Let's talk about it when and if it is no longer a rumor.
Why? Will that change things so we suddenly have money again?

The point remains.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Summerville, SC
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Sorry, none left.
We can print more and devalue it for the next generation.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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Why? Will that change things so we suddenly have money again?

The point remains.
Why should we wait till what you are railing against is proven true or false?

Really? Do you always rail against things that you don't care are true or not? Isn't that mostly insane?
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:40 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Why should we wait till what you are railing against is proven true or false?

Really? Do you always rail against things that you don't care are true or not? Isn't that mostly insane?
That's the response I expected: When you can't refute the message, attack the messenger instead.

BTW, the money is still gone.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:45 AM
 
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You can build schools and buildings stronger IF you're willing to pay for it. That should be local concerns weighed against the likelihood of natural disasters.
I don't think giving the federal government a whote ton of money so they can come up with new regulations is the answer. Storms happen. They happen anywhere. Buildings built 50 years ago are still standing and have never been hit. A new building built tomorrow could withstand a tornado of 100 MPH and still never get hit. Spend the money on likely events such as kid neediung to learn how to read.
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Old 05-21-2013, 10:47 AM
 
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I keep hearing rumors that the Fed Govt will start spending money to prepare states for the next weather disaster, using the horrific disaster over the last few days in Oklahoma as a prod.

I've already given money to the Red Cross to help with the Oklahoma tonado disaster. If a disaster ever happens to California (earthquake etc.) I'm sure Oklahomans will be just as generous - they've seen their share of such things, even beyond this present ones.

But about spending Federal money to prepare for the next one, whether in Oklahoma, California,or anywhere else in the country....

...sorry, Oklahoma, we can't. There isn't any more money.

We've already spend ourselves into a half-trillion-plus deficit for just this year alone. And we've been doing it for so long, that we've spent every penny we could hope to earn in the next YEAR. Including food, shelter, all therest, for every citizen in the U.S. We've spent everything we had, and then we've borrowed more than sixteen TRILLION, and spent all of that, too.

Every man, woman, and child in the country owes $54,000. Adn that's just the debt for what we've already spent. For what we've promised to spend in the future (Social Security, Medicare etc.), the bill is something like three or four times that. And we CAN'T get out of it. We must pay, and pretty soon. BTW, not every man, woman, and child works and earns money here. So a family of four that has one (or maybe two) breadwinners, owes more than $200,000 already. And that's BEFORE the Fed spends even more tomorrow. And the next day. And when you throw in the stuff we've promised to pay in the future (within our lifetimes)... well, you're talking a cool million or more. That EVERY family must pay. And if you feel that "the poor" shouldn't have to pay it, that means YOU have to pay your entire share PLUS THEIRS.

Sorry, folks. There isn't any more money. Even if we were attacked by some aggressive nation in a full-blown World War, about all we could do is surrender, because we'd run out of fuel, ammo, and even food and uniforms for the troops, to say nothing of warships, planes, jeeps, tanks and everything else we'd need to fight. Maybe we could throw rocks at the enemy, we still have lots of those.

Well, we aren't QUITE at that stage. But we're awfully close. And we'd have to be insane to move any closer.

So for anything short of a clear and present threat to our national existence.... sorry, tornado victims. There isn't any more money.

You Oklahomans will have to build your own storm shelters. And Californians will have to reinforce your buildings against quakes, on your own dime. And folks along the Mississippi, Missoouri, and those other rivers that usually flood if they haven't done so already... better start filling your own sandbags (after paying for them yourselves)... or learn to swim. The Fed govt can't help any more... because they've already spent all the money on other things. There isn't any more.

Get the message? It doesn't matter how much others might want to help, or how much you deserve to be helped.

Ther isn't any more money. And all the deserving or suffering in the world, won't change that fact.

We're tapped out, and can't help any more, no matter how much we want to. Period.

Sorry.
Except, that as a Californian, the federal government owes me money, since my tax dollars go to subsidizing anti tax red states.
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