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Old 05-21-2013, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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With the neo-conservative right's bizarre fear of foreign languages in the US, I thought I'd impart a few interesting facts about the Spanish language, in this country.

  • 28% of New Mexico's population speaks Spanish, 46% of New Mexico's population is Hispanic. So half of New Mexico's hispanic population doesn't speak Spanish. So much for a take-over.
  • Here is some telling information from an Economist article: 23% of young hispanics prefer Spanish to English. Here's more
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This year, in a joint venture with ABC, Univision will launch Fusion, an
English-language news station. Spanish will persist for some products,
particularly those aimed at fresh immigrants. Yet its relative decline presents
new opportunities
Marketing: The lust for Latino lucre | The Economist

Basically, we're seeing what we saw with other immigrants in Hispanics, except their full assimilation occurs within the 3-4 generation as opposed to the 2nd and 3rd generation.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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With the neo-conservative right's bizarre fear of foreign languages in the US, I thought I'd impart a few interesting facts about the Spanish language, in this country.

  • 28% of New Mexico's population speaks Spanish, 46% of New Mexico's population is Hispanic. So half of New Mexico's hispanic population doesn't speak Spanish. So much for a take-over.
  • Here is some telling information from an Economist article: 23% of young hispanics prefer Spanish to English. Here's more
Marketing: The lust for Latino lucre | The Economist

Basically, we're seeing what we saw with other immigrants in Hispanics, except their full assimilation occurs within the 3-4 generation as opposed to the 2nd and 3rd generation.
4th generation would be 100 years ?
I'm going by the definition of a generation being 25 years.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Good. We will either breed them into to being American's (english speakers) or deny them from conducting business in this country using a language other than english.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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They learn English because it maks economic sense (they make more money) just like the waves of immigrants from everywhere else. Just because they are Hispanic or have spanish speaking Hispanic parents does not make them any dumber or smarter than any other group of immigrants or Americans.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Good. We will either breed them into to being American's (english speakers) or deny them from conducting business in this country using a language other than english.
I have seen 3rd generation entering school not being able to speak English.

Grandma was the immigrant.
Child born here and put through our K-12 (some of the teachers at our school taught this person)
Grandchild comes to K not knowing a word of English.

Many of these children only speak English at school, especially if they live in majority Hispanic neighborhoods. Both written and spoken Spanish is all over so this is not an anomaly.

I used to live next to an Hispanic family. 3 generations under the roof but only the kids spoke English when you went to ask them something. I was our HOA secretary so I did have occasion to go there..kids not home and I had to come back.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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With the neo-conservative right's bizarre fear of foreign languages in the US,
neoconservative (n): A liberal who has joined the Republican party.
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:15 PM
 
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With the neo-conservative right's bizarre fear of foreign languages in the US, I thought I'd impart a few interesting facts about the Spanish language, in this country.


  • 28% of New Mexico's population speaks Spanish, 46% of New Mexico's population is Hispanic. So half of New Mexico's hispanic population doesn't speak Spanish. So much for a take-over.
  • Here is some telling information from an Economist article: 23% of young hispanics prefer Spanish to English. Here's more
Marketing: The lust for Latino lucre | The Economist

Basically, we're seeing what we saw with other immigrants in Hispanics, except their full assimilation occurs within the 3-4 generation as opposed to the 2nd and 3rd generation.
Really? Is that why I hear mostly Spanish being spoken out in public by Hispanics from pre-schoolers thru grandparents? Is that why we keep seeing these ads for bi-lingual employees (meaning Spanish)?
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Old 05-21-2013, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I was hired at my current job based strongly on the fact that I speak both English and Spanish. Little do folks know the majority...perhaps vast majority... of the Spanish-speaking people I come across speak English too. They are just used to speaking Spanish from conversing with their older relatives.

And hell no I don't tell anyone at work about this. Those who speak both know but we don't say anything. I'm using my skills to my advantage. Just like the conservatives taught me.

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Old 05-21-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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I was hired at my current job based strongly on the fact that I speak both English and Spanish. Little do folks know the majority...perhaps vast majority... of the Spanish-speaking people I come across speak English too. They are just used to speaking Spanish from conversing with their older relatives.

And hell no I don't tell anyone at work about this. Those who speak both know but we don't say anything. I'm using my skills to my advantage. Just like the conservatives taught me.

Conservatives? Perhaps you mean a real skill on a job. Spanish isn't a skill per se.
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Old 05-21-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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This has been a long known fact for people who have lived in heavily Hispanic areas.

I think the stats change depending on how you break it down too. I never, ever, ever met an American born to Dominican, Puerto Rican, or Cuban immigrants (well, Puerto Ricans are not really immigrants) that didn't speak English. Here in Florida, along with Mexicans, those are the four main Hispanic demographics that you come across. I have kind of noticed that Mexican and Americans born to Mexican immigrants grasp English more slowly, but they also come around.
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