Anchor babies never took oath of allegiance how are they citizens? (independence, March)
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well Citizens is an all encompassing term. There are those who become citizens by going through naturalization and they wanted to make that distinction when they said that to become President, you must be a natural born citizen.
Which pretty much means you have to be eligible for US citizenship at birth either through the parents or being born under the US flag, not by naturalization.
They are not anchor babies. Its a racist term used by racists and anti-immigration morons. Those children are US citizens.
Would you prefer children of criminals?
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why do you deserve an apology?
For breaking the law & causing grief to Americans.
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I'm not denying anything. You are using racist terms for American born citizens. That's not my problem.
There is nothing racist about calling a criminal by their name .
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Their parents are illegal. Their children born here are not illegal. They are citizens.
They should not be according to the original intent of the 14th amendment. Their parents should be deported & charge with child endangerment for their ruthless behavior.
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there is no requirement in our laws to "assimilate". Even americans born here from white mothers and fathers do not "assimilate".
In light of this, we can see how important the tool and concept of Americanization is for our authors, such as Jefferson, for instance, who in many respects, was centrally focused on this idea of Americanization and what that entailed for the growth and production of an early United States. We can also see how central the concepts of naturalization and border, as an interconnected process and function of social classification, are crucial for Jefferson and our other authors charged with the task of developing a national identity.
Nowhere in the ruling does this give license for a foreign born.
Anyone born on US soil is not foreign born. By definition.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
Parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of the Constitution itself.
That is a lie. That language can be found nowhere within the Constitution. Go look.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
In all commen sense at least one parent has to be a citizen. & what you are saying the conditions of the parents are irrelevant, but fact they are under the constitution.
This is a lie. There is no reference to parents at all let alone their "conditions" in the US COnstitution.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
Do illegal alien parents still owe allegiance to their country of origin on a visit?
Birthright citizenship does not have anything to do with the parent's allegiance. It has only to do with the child's allegiance. At the moment of birth on US soil, a child has a single exclusive and absolute allegiance to the United States of America.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
Does a Frenchman no longer owe allegiance to France while visiting NY without first taking the steps under naturalization law to renounce his allegiance with France?
It does not matter what the Frenchman owes to anybody. It matters only what the child owes.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
As Trumbull, Howard states on the subject of Jurisdiction
Trumbull was speaking explicitly about Indians, not the children of aliens. And Howard is simply being misinterpreted by you. Not that either matters, since the US Supreme Court has spoken.
Its not an authoritative source? Yet Brennan used in his footnotes, hell you even pointed to Brennans use of Bouve in one of your comments.
I pointed only to the fact that you were not being truthful regarding what the footnote said, and what Bouve was being referenced regarding. And you are being further disingenuous when you set up a straw man regarding my opinion on Bouve's "authority." Please... argue with what I am actually saying rather than the voices in your head.
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Originally Posted by Liquid Reigns
I don't care about Vattel or birthers, neither have anything to do with my argument.
Nonsense. The analogy offered cuts immediately to the quick of your frantic equivocation.
I'd prefer that you call these children what they are, citizens of the US. Their parent's status means nothing.
If your father murdered someone prior to you being born, shall we also call you a child of a criminal?
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For breaking the law & causing grief to Americans.
Oh, and normal US Citizens who break laws don't cause any grief to Americans? They outnumber the crimes committed by Illegals, by a huge percentage.
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There is nothing racist about calling a criminal by their name .
A baby born on US soil is a citizen. Not a criminal. Tell me what crime does a baby commit at the moment of their birth.
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They should not be according to the original intent of the 14th amendment.
by your uninformed and ignorant opinion. Supreme Court has already stated that anyone born in the US are citizens at birth. And the original "intent" of the 14th was to fix the issues with our citizenship laws, and enforce the laws that were passed in 1866 for Americans.
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Their parents should be deported & charge with child endangerment for their ruthless behavior.
Exactly how is it child endangerment for having their child born in America? Explain what the endangerment exactly is.
Be careful, you are using Bouve as a credible source now, Plyler v Doe footnote 22.
Equivocate all you wish, LR. You are still light years away from finding a SCOTUS confirmation regarding the Bouve reference that you so desperately want to pretend carries legal weight.
I always prefer the honest children of criminals to the criminal children of honest people.
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Originally Posted by All American NYC
There is nothing racist about calling a criminal by their name .
What crime have those little newborn babies committed? Exactly?
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