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Jon Rappaport makes a good argument. I was leaning this direction anyway, but now I'm sold. If they just label them, this company still has a deathgrip on our farmers, and the pets and livestock will continue to be fed this poison. Farmers will continue to be harrassed and sued. Ban them from this country. I'd like to see them prosecuted for the harm they've done and the deceit that has been perpetrated by Monsanto and all who have been complicit in this coverup.
In the US, laws exist to prosecute crimes involving endangerment of health and crimes related to false marketing practices. These laws are on the books. When it comes to Monsanto, they’re gathering dust on the shelves.
Choice and fairness apply to competitive products that are safe. The consumer picks one type of tomato over another. The consumer buys walnuts rather than pecans. The consumer chooses black olives over green olives.
Choosing non-GMO corn instead of GMO corn still leaves dangerous GMO corn in produce bins.
Should a bottle of cyanide sit on a store shelf next to a bottle of salt, just to be fair to the consumer? To give him a choice?
Three or four federal law-enforcement agencies would arrest and prosecute the store owners who sell cyanide, as well as the distributors, and the packagers.
But in the case of GMO food, the FDA and USDA, the relevant agencies, do nothing. Neither does the Dept. of Justice.
Aside from several counties in America that have banned the growing of GMO crops, the big push is for labeling of GMO food in stores. That’s it.
The “kinder, gentler” approach is based on two assumptions. One, American consumers need soft activism. They won’t demand legal rejection of GMO food. They will, however, choose the right food.
And two, Monsanto has made such a powerful inroad on food-crop farming, it’s too late to take it back. It’s too late to declare all the GMO crops illegal.
“You see, so many people are taking Vioxx, we can’t go to court over it. It’s a done deal, even though patients are dropping like flies.”
The other issues are indeed a real problem, not just with Monsanto. Conflict of interest is a very big problem imo. So are patents related to living beings.
However, when these companies are held responsible it only involves a small dent in profits. This to me is not adequate.
I'm not ok with banning but I do support labeling. Consumers should have the right to make decisions based upon anything they want no matter how irrational those reasons might appear to other people. It is impossible for them to carry out a decision to not buy GMO products if GMO products are not legally required to be labeled though and thus the reason such labeling laws need to be put into effect.
I'm not ok with banning but I do support labeling. Consumers should have the right to make decisions based upon anything they want no matter how irrational those reasons might appear to other people. It is impossible for them to carry out a decision to not buy GMO products if GMO products are not legally required to be labeled though and thus the reason such labeling laws need to be put into effect.
This time you actually thought for yourself, I like it. At the same time, I'm going to disagree. I would draw a line on things that are proven to cause harm. Fluoride in water and toothpaste for example, or mercury and other harmful elements in vaccines. Perhaps all this stuff can be avoided by just having the FDA, DEA, USDA, EPA, do what we expect them to do, and protect the public interest instead of the corporations.
Since they have completely failed us, I see no recourse other than a ban until such time as this genetic modification has been proven safe and a benefit to society.
I hate Monsanto but this anti-GMO crap makes supposedly pro-science liberals look stupid. People think of DNA as being part of our genetic makeup, but when it's in our stomach, it's just food. We eat the DNA of dozens of plants and animals every day, changing a few sequences is not going to hurt anyone. It's so damn simple.
I hate Monsanto but this anti-GMO crap makes supposedly pro-science liberals look stupid. People think of DNA as being part of our genetic makeup, but when it's in our stomach, it's just food. We eat the DNA of dozens of plants and animals every day, changing a few sequences is not going to hurt anyone. It's so damn simple.
Incorrect on more than one account.
Not all "anti-GMO people" are Liberals.
Also, the concern is Roundup Ready poison. It is the Roundup Ready that is the concern.
Now how simple is that to understand? Must not be since every person spouting off against "anti-GMO people" uses that excuse.
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I hate Monsanto but this anti-GMO crap makes supposedly pro-science liberals look stupid. People think of DNA as being part of our genetic makeup, but when it's in our stomach, it's just food. We eat the DNA of dozens of plants and animals every day, changing a few sequences is not going to hurt anyone. It's so damn simple.
You are leaving out methodology which can introduce issues. Also altered proteins have consequences. Our digestive tract is a huge part of our immune system.
Also conflict of interest and patent issues related to living things.
You are leaving out methodology which can introduce issues. Also altered proteins have consequences. Our digestive tract is a huge part of our immune system.
Also conflict of interest and patent issues related to living things.
Some cows in England ate some weirdly-folded proteins once, and went mad.
Then a girl in Florida ate one of those cows, and she too went mad.
You can get some bad origamic from screwing with transgested protein warp.
you are leaving out methodology which can introduce issues. Also altered proteins have consequences. Our digestive tract is a huge part of our immune system.
Also conflict of interest and patent issues related to living things.
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