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Old 06-10-2013, 03:30 PM
 
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Start a new thread about your topics.
This is about Lifeline during Reagan's administration.
Which you have no problem with, yet under Obama it's communism!!!

 
Old 06-10-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Pa
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WTF? Seriously? Dude, please get a grip. People need phones, it's a fact of life. How do you think an employer is going to get hold of them? Thru your tinfoil hat?
An inexpensive land line?
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:07 PM
 
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I'm pretty sure Democrats are trying to reduce fraud taking place by those avoiding online sales taxes.. Why arent THEY concerned with the fraud taking place in regards to phones?
You are pretty sure? Here is the thing the online purchases avoiding paying sales taxes has been going on for years. Name the prominent Democrat out pushing. Name one, this is an industry thing lead by companies like Walmart, Best Buy etc whose customers do pay sales taxes online and in stores complaining that other businesses are being given an unfair advantage.

That is about having access to politicians ears, not conservative or Democrat. Sorry, the comparison doesn't hold.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 05:32 PM
 
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What is about landlines phones that make it immune to fraud? There was no welfare fraud during the Reagan years? Reagan would disagree.

Bush expanded the program to include cell phones.
No, that happened in 1996...

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Following the 1996 act, the FCC revised Lifeline, stating that carriers contributing to the program are those that provide interstate telecommunications service — including wireless companies.
factcheck.org : Congressman’s Slippery Cell Phone Claim

The "universality" of communications started in 1934 when the FCC was created.

The major changes occurred in 1984 after the divestiture of AT&T and was implemented in 1985.

The next major change was in 1996 when the FCC included wireless companies.

After that, the next major change was in Feb. 2012 when:
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Surveys found an average of 9 percent of Lifeline users in 17 states and territories were ineligible for the program, while recent audits found 400,000 instances of one person — or one household — having more than one subsidized connection. Some phones were sold for cash on Craigslist.

The FCC, however, overhauled the program in February, enacting changes that call for building databases to confirm beneficiaries’ eligibility and to identify duplicate subscriptions. The FCC also slashed 75 percent of available subsidies for the program, which eliminated a “perverse” incentive for some phone companies to enroll ineligible persons. The FCC projects its modifications will save up to $2 billion over three years.
factcheck.org : Congressman’s Slippery Cell Phone Claim

I guess you can carry on with your ridiculously stupid thread now...
 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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Pay for your own phone!!! I have a cheapo pre-paid, costs me less than 100 bucks a year. What's next in the free line of goodies for the Welfaroes??????
 
Old 06-10-2013, 09:58 PM
 
Location: US
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Their nickname is Obama Phone Dem and Repub alike. These phones were used politically to promote votes for Obama, under the false pretense that he is helping the poor.
 
Old 06-10-2013, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Conservatives complain about it because it was started as a program to help people truly in need and under Obama it has blossomed into a huge waste of tax payer dollars going to people who don't actually need it.
Another way of looking at it is that it began as a program that benefitted a corporate backer.
No federal tax dollars are used to fund the program. Telecommunication companies donate funds to the Universal Service Fund. Some carriers, like Verizon, pass it on to their customers as a Universal Service Fee.

These phones are available to folk living at the poverty rate, in about 38 states.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Why didn't they call them the Reagan phones?

I think the time to whine about them would have been in 1985, when it was enacted under Reagan.

30 years too late. Their fake outrage is duly noted.
I think it is a part of the problem is the war on welfare abuse. Just watch the Obamaphone video and it shows it. The woman glorifies voting Obama to continue welfare. Welfare was created for a measure to help those who cannot get basic access. However it doesn't help people get off of welfare, and just incentifies people to stay within the bounds of welfare.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 01:02 AM
 
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Which you have no problem with, yet under Obama it's communism!!!
Don doesn't care that under Obama 3 million Obamaphones were fraudulently obtained.

Don doesn't care that the program has more than doubled under Obama.

Why should we care about a measly 1 billion dollars for fraudulent Obamaphones anyway?

Don thinks you guys are probably all racists, just like all those terrible people on Don's favorite AMC show.
 
Old 06-11-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
Reaganphones = act of kindness, Saint like

Bushphones = good

Obamaphones = Satanic Communism

Silly silly Liberal. Thinking that because a repub did it, we think it's ok.

Remember, the Tea party wasn't started to resist the dems, it was started to resist the repubs. Ahh, but you'll never understand that.
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