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Why is it acceptable when it's a White male that loses their place to another White male?
It wouldn't be if it was institutionalized or done because one was catholic and one methodist.
If one is more qualified and he beats out the other for the position it is just.
Why is it acceptable when it's a White male that loses their place to another White male?
That's fine to opponents of AA, because anyone losing that job would be next in line for the next job comming along. If you keep others off the line, then there is no problem.
AA was allowing some to jump in the line.
That a big no-no.
Us first and all you others to the back of the line.
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If the second white male is more qualified than it is obviously acceptable.
How is it acceptable to take a less qualified person simply because of what they look like (race/gender)?
So where are you going to find previously trained people? Steal them from your competitors? Hire them right out of school? Give the jobs to your nephews?
I am a good mechanic, actually machinist, welder and occasionally blacksmith, but I do not make my living doing these things because the pay is too low for the skill required. Hell, certified aircraft mechanics make less the $20 per hour around here and their jobs are being outsourced. That is a joke.
LOL the gas companies stole a lot of our electricians and mechanics from where I work.
Which opportunities?
Public education?
The ability to improve oneself?
As I said before I don't disagree with the idea of AA. I distrust and disagree with how it is done.
Come on, you have to admit that over the years there were some very qualified, intelligent black people turned away for jobs because of the color of their skin.
Look at the Tuskegee airmen, they were the best of the best and it took almost a revolution and desperation on the part of the Air Corp to give them a chance.
Affirmative Action is not perfect and maybe it's not needed anymore, but the mission was just and the results I think were pretty good compared to other Federal programs.
I suppose my feelings on affirmative action can be summed up in a "cast" metaphor:
When a bone is broken, you put a cast on it to stabilize the bone while it heals. You don't take the cast off as soon as there are signs of healing; you take it off when the bone is strong enough to support itself.
As far as society goes, on the surface I see signs of token integration and success everywhere. American society certainly has improved in the last 40-50 years! Make no mistake about that! However, socioeconomic and statistical evidence has repeatedly shown that minorities are still severely disadvantaged. Is Affirmative Action the magical elixir to enforcing equality? That's highly unlikely and why I see it merely as the "cast" which is keeping our fractured society in alignment while we try to heal it. I don't think it's a good idea to remove it until we have better evidence to support the assertion that equality has realistically been achieved.
Using your cast metaphor, if you don't take the cast off soon enough the broken limb will never regain strength, and will eventually become infected. At this point, AA is a cast that has been left on too long.
Affirmative action was meant to open the old-guard doors for minorities, and it has done so. Now it should be up to the individuals to prove their worth and expand their position. Continuing to support affirmative action is akin to saying that minorities are incapable of performing at a level that competes with other races, which is extremely unfair to every single minority member that I have ever met.
Come on, you have to admit that over the years there were some very qualified, intelligent black people turned away for jobs because of the color of their skin.
Look at the Tuskegee airmen, they were the best of the best and it took almost a revolution and desperation on the part of the Air Corp to give them a chance.
Affirmative Action is not perfect and maybe it's not needed anymore, but the mission was just and the results I think were pretty good compared to other Federal programs.
For every complaint about a minority w/ lower scores getting the nod over a White person w/ a higher score, there is almost certainly another White person w/ lower scores than BOTH OF THEM that also got in.
Actually no, there isn't. Selective schools bend their admission standards far more for blacks than they do for white athletes and legacy students.
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