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Old 06-13-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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The Walmart in west Mississauga was icky ten years ago too. ... The whole atmosphere in the store has always been depressing. I don't bother complaining to businesses. I just move on.
That's your prerogative.
However, individual store managers may be the cause of the problems you witnessed.
Some rise to the peak of incompetence, and the store suffers for it.
Let the upper management know that you consider a clean store is as important as low prices.

FWIW - I recently "complained" to Pilot Pen company about their ball point pens only working for 15 years and not for all eternity. (I had one oldie finally die out, after 15 years... I dunno why it never dried out.) They sent me a box of refills and free pens. Great company. Great pens.
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Old 06-13-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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WM should just raise prices in CA and increase the wages for it's workers there. Why get into a prolonged battle with a bunch of Socialists running the state of CA?
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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They are NOT forced to take the job. They can keep applying elsewhere. Many take the job because of the OPPORTUNITY it can provide. It may suck at first, like when both my wife and my niece started part-time at Walmart. Both were promoted to full time. Both were promoted to supervision. Both have benefits INCLUDING insurance. Both get profit sharing. Both are upwardly mobile in the company. Both have degrees. Both have opportunity to go a long way with the company.

My best guess is that you want those situations automatically transferred to people who show up late to work, if they show up at all, or to people who are uneducated, show little ability, little to no sense, no ambition or drive, and probably aren't even qualified to operate the french fry fryer at McDonald's.

My best guess is that you think it isn't fair that Mr. Walton's kids, who never had to work a single day in their lives, should have the financial benefit of Sam Walton's personal vision, his drive, or his sacrifice because... well, it's just "not fair!"


There will always be the poor. We will never run out of them. But if a person is honest and objective, the poor are that way because of their OWN choices and actions. They are NOT that way because "...the system isn't fair".
That is absolutely correct. Everyone gets a free education, what they do with it is their own choice. If they choose to drop out then they will have limited job choices.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Planet earth
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WM should just raise prices in CA and increase the wages for it's workers there. Why get into a prolonged battle with a bunch of Socialists running the state of CA?

How about because it is a battle that needs to be fought, and who better to fight it than the largest corporation in the world.
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Old 06-13-2013, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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the poor are that way because of their OWN choices and actions. They are NOT that way because "...the system isn't fair".
Lose your job, see if you feel that way. Especially if you are over 50.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:29 PM
 
Location: DFW
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WM should just raise prices in CA and increase the wages for it's workers there. Why get into a prolonged battle with a bunch of Socialists running the state of CA?
Because there are a lot of poor in that state who use WM to put food on their table when they buy from WM.
Increase costs / prices at WM and you'll reduce the amount off food those people have available to feed to their kids.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:18 PM
 
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You should not make Wal-Mart your career choice Sparky!
I've seen Wal-Mart literally change the lives of poor people with very little education. If you work hard and have a good attitude, you can move up to management and they pay very well. My friend has worked at Wal-Mart for 10 years and managed to work her way up from an associate to store manager making almost $200K annually with salary and bonuses. Single mother with no college. There's no way that could have happened at most other places. I've worked as a paralegal for over 20 years, and my salary doesn't even come close.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:22 PM
 
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That's your prerogative.
However, individual store managers may be the cause of the problems you witnessed.
Some rise to the peak of incompetence, and the store suffers for it.
Let the upper management know that you consider a clean store is as important as low prices.

FWIW - I recently "complained" to Pilot Pen company about their ball point pens only working for 15 years and not for all eternity. (I had one oldie finally die out, after 15 years... I dunno why it never dried out.) They sent me a box of refills and free pens. Great company. Great pens.
It's surprising they've stayed in business so long if their pens are so good. My husband and I passed a shut-down company with a sign on the front saying their doors were guaranteed to last a lifetime. My husband joked, "You see what happens when you make a quality product?" It was funny, but probably true in a way.
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Old 06-13-2013, 07:40 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Lose your job, see if you feel that way. Especially if you are over 50.
Be diverse and don't silo yourself. Pretty arrogant to think you can never be fired no matter who you are. I've dealt with it all my career. Unless you were in some union making it impossible to fire you, you probably dealt with it to.

People that have their own businesses are laughing at people that think they are entitled to a good job since most of them fail.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:00 PM
 
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Your coming off as some Wal-Mart insider who knows their financial structure. What are you basing your analysis off of??


Are you saying the Wal-Mart does not have the means to pay its employees better?

What have I said is not public knowledge?


This is common sense to any intelligent and reasonable person.

A Social Security payment to a Walmart employee age 62 or above is NOT a "subsidy to Walmart," but rather a defined benefit earned by the individual. To say otherwise is dishonest.


Of course Walmart could pay more. So could Target. Studies show that nationwide, they tend to pay about the same on average. Look it up.

How much more should Walmart pay with their 3.6% profit margin (nationwide, US companies tend to average between a 9 and 11% profit margin). Why shouldn't Walmart have profits to protect and expands its company?
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