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BTW, my UNION shop I work at has a 0.0% government welfare subsidized workforce. All our wages come from the private sector.
See how that works, pay people a decent wage and your taxes don't go up.
...or you stop providing government money to social welfare programs so that businesses have to pay more instead of exploiting programs that shouldn't exist in the first place.
...or you stop providing government money to social welfare programs so that businesses have to pay more instead of exploiting programs that shouldn't exist in the first place.
My point is that conservatives should love labor unions. They demand their living wages and benefits from their employers, not the government.
I got news for you, this Welfare state we are living in now is a product of your republican thinking. Short term, that is what republicans do. They don't want to negotiate in good faith with their workforce so they pass right to work laws ect and they import cheap labor from across the border.
Now they have to subsidize all this cheap labor through social welfare programs and in the end it ends up costing them more. Idiots.
what if walmart just shuts down all of their stores? then what, CA will have an even worse unemployment rate. Walmart should do just that, then all the shoppers can shop at more expensive stores. What a great plan.
And if I'm the California Legislature, I call this bluff every single time. If I recall correctly there are about 150-200 WalMart stores in the state of California. Think about how much revenue those stores bring in. Does anyone really think that WalMart would even seriously consider shutting down those stores over this issue?
My point is that conservatives should love labor unions. They demand their living wages and benefits from their employers, not the government.
I got news for you, this Welfare state we are living in now is a product of your republican thinking. Short term, that is what republicans do. They don't want to negotiate in good faith with their workforce so they pass right to work laws ect and they import cheap labor from across the border.
Now they have to subsidize all this cheap labor through social welfare programs and in the end it ends up costing them more. Idiots.
I have only voted republican once in my life, so don't lump me in. The welfare state is the product of both sides of the isle. Both sides want to 'win' against each other as opposed to actually accomplishing anything of value. Democrats don't want to negotiate either. Any thought that they do is nothing but ignorant. Cheap labor is a product of social welfare programs and anyone should have seen it coming. Additionally, unions did have a purpose at one point in time, however all they do now is prop up people getting wages higher than they actually deserve. Unions are legal entities (which wouldn't exist without the government) that allow wages to be higher than they should be. They hurt the economy at a macro level to benefit a few people. Hardly something anyone should be proud of.
My point is that conservatives should love labor unions. They demand their living wages and benefits from their employers, not the government.
I got news for you, this Welfare state we are living in now is a product of your republican thinking. Short term, that is what republicans do. They don't want to negotiate in good faith with their workforce so they pass right to work laws ect and they import cheap labor from across the border.
Now they have to subsidize all this cheap labor through social welfare programs and in the end it ends up costing them more. Idiots.
Pretty sure Kroger is unionized and they pay less than WMT. I'm also pretty sure the GOP is opposing, or was, the amnesty bill and didn't Arizona try and enforce the federal immigration law? Yeah, let's blame the republicans. I think where you may have a case is if you were to claim that republicans won't impose penalties on employers that hire illegals or support e verify. Not sure how true that would be though.
I have only voted republican once in my life, so don't lump me in. The welfare state is the product of both sides of the isle. Both sides want to 'win' against each other as opposed to actually accomplishing anything of value. Democrats don't want to negotiate either. Any thought that they do is nothing but ignorant. Cheap labor is a product of social welfare programs and anyone should have seen it coming. Additionally, unions did have a purpose at one point in time, however all they do now is prop up people getting wages higher than they actually deserve. Unions are legal entities (which wouldn't exist without the government) that allow wages to be higher than they should be. They hurt the economy at a macro level to benefit a few people. Hardly something anyone should be proud of.
Sorry I made assumptions about your politics, I hate that when people do that to me.
"Accurate and timely data on Wal-Mart’s wage and employment practices is not always readily available. However, occasional releases of demographic data from public assistance programs can provide useful windows into the scope of taxpayer subsidization of Wal-Mart. After analyzing data released by Wisconsin’s Medicaid program, the Democratic staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce estimates that a single 300- person Wal-Mart Supercenter store in Wisconsin likely costs taxpayers at least $904,542 per year and could cost taxpayers up to $1,744,590 per year – about $5,815 per employee."
I couldn't tell from the article if this bill was targeted specifically at Wal-Marts in California or any big box stores in California. If it's targeted at Wal-Mart specifically, it is unfair and will not go anywhere. If it is targeted at ALL big box stores, then I support it.
We can't expect these companies to pay good wages out of the decency of their hearts. The government must force them to or fine them if they don't.
I couldn't tell from the article if this bill was targeted specifically at Wal-Marts in California or any big box stores in California. If it's targeted at Wal-Mart specifically, it is unfair and will not go anywhere. If it is targeted at ALL big box stores, then I support it.
We can't expect these companies to pay good wages out of the decency of their hearts. The government must force them to or fine them if they don't.
I agree with you that you can't go around targeting certain corporations.
I would be in favor of tax incentives for companies who pay their employees well. If we're going to be subsidizing corporations we might as well subsidize them in an area where we'll get a return on our investment for the people rather than simply investors.
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I think where you may have a case is if you were to claim that republicans won't impose penalties on employers that hire illegals or support e verify. Not sure how true that would be though.
