House votes to cut food stamps by 2 billion a year (wage, companies)
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We could pass an alternative bill. Workfare. Want food stamps? Community service for those who qualify.
Every hour of community service= $10.00 in food stamps up 15 hours a week.
There is a lot of trash along our roads and along our rivers.
A lot of graffiti covers too many walls. It is an eye sore.
Good meaningful work can be done to earn those food stamps.
What about the people who are getting food stamps who are working full time already?
Its in the article bout half way down. I read the whole thing. Also requires food stamp recipients to take drug tests...its the governments fault people have to use food stamps in the first place,get the hell out of the way and let the economy recover instead of forcing more regulations on it and people who work would not need food stamps to survive.
I suppose we could do some experimentation with those states that have legalized marijuana. We could test their citizens, and see how much can be saved in food stamps by removing the addicts from the recepients.
What about the people who are getting food stamps who are working full time already?
define full time? 40 hour week?
I used to work 2 full time jobs. I now work a 48 hour average week. Yet I have time to go work on farm equipment for neighbor farmers. I do the work free because they let me hunt. They pay for parts but I easily put in a good 20 hours a week in spring and summer.
There is time if they really want the food stamps.
Come on 15 hours a week? 2 hours a day or put in 6 on a saturday. You people make it seem like it is impossible.
I suppose we could do some experimentation with those states that have legalized marijuana. We could test their citizens, and see how much can be saved in food stamps by removing the addicts from the recepients.
How are you going to test for the alcoholics? Or is addiction okay as long as it's a government-sanctioned drug?
I suppose we could do some experimentation with those states that have legalized marijuana. We could test their citizens, and see how much can be saved in food stamps by removing the addicts from the recepients.
Gotta have the same standards for people on prescription meds.
define full time? 40 hour week?
I used to work 2 full time jobs. I now work a 48 hour average week. Yet I have time to go work on farm equipment for neighbor farmers. I do the work free because they let me hunt. They pay for parts but I easily put in a good 20 hours a week in spring and summer.
There is time if they really want the food stamps.
Come on 15 hours a week? 2 hours a day or put in 6 on a saturday. You people make it seem like it is impossible.
Well, at my workplace it's usually more than 40, as it's shift work (nursing home) and there is a sign up sheet for extra shifts that is always full....the women I know in this situation of needing help are moms who have deadbeat dads for ex-husbands a lot of the time. Not many people have unlimited child care resources to watch them all week and on weekends, too. Many are also going to school part time in order to try to give themselves and their kids a better life. Now you want them to quit school so they can spend that time picking up trash alongside criminals on the side of the road...and that will somehow equal a stronger American future?
This thread is filled with post that cry some things cant be done. The fact that versions of workfare has worked in the past and that it it would shut many mouths about handouts. You work for it, you earned it, that means it isn't a handout.
Make the projects meaningful. Cleanup parks, roads, rivers. All need to be done and all make the community a better place.
They work full time jobs. A lot of us do, but yet have time to put in time in volunteer work. Have time to go do a lot of things.
I don't know a single dairy farmer who doesn't work 80+ hour weeks.
My friend has a welding shop. He never works less than 60 hour weeks.
My young friend almost a son to me works 2 full time jobs as a mechanic on one and welder else where. He has 2 kids. He isn't on welfare and is saving for his kids future.
There is time for people to do workfare.
Well, at my workplace it's usually more than 40, as it's shift work (nursing home) and there is a sign up sheet for extra shifts that is always full....the women I know in this situation of needing help are moms who have deadbeat dads for ex-husbands a lot of the time. Not many people have unlimited child care resources to watch them all week and on weekends, too. Many are also going to school part time in order to try to give themselves and their kids a better life. Now you want them to quit school so they can spend that time picking up trash alongside criminals on the side of the road...and that will somehow equal a stronger American future?
what % meet the criteria you speak of?
Where I live dead beat dads go to jail. In fact the system is so lopsided as to create deadbeat dads. But that is for another thread.
The argument most post is Walmart doesnt pay enough. Or someone doesn't pay enough. How much should a low skill job pay?
Now there are options some suck, some make life a little harder. Not all work in nursing homes and not all go to school on the side. I would hazard that most don't.
Where I work in a factory we also use an outside contractor that pays $10.00 an hour for doing low skill tasks.
Most of those people also complain and most get food stamps. Very few have second jobs and fewer still go to college on the side. Most are smokers, and most buy lunch in the cafeteria. Go figure.
Workfare won't work for 100% of the people. Show me a system that does. Just like Social Security doesn't pay enough for many to live. It was never meant to be a mainstay. It was meant to supplement what we prepared for ourselves.
What is your solution? Unlimited food stamps? Tax Middle class and up more to pay for it? Only tax the so-called rich? Do these measures build personal accountability?
You mentioned dead beat dads. Who selected those men for breeders? I certainly had no hand in it. Yes they should be punished and made to pay. But if they are bums you can't get money from a stone. Yes make them do the workfare for their children"s food stamps. That works for me, but mommy is working a 36 to 40 hour week she can also spare a few hours of her own time as well.
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