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You don't have one, unless you apply for one. Most people apply when they get their first job, or at least that's the way it used to be.
Since 1987, when the IRS began requiring people provide the social security numbers of dependents, most parents apply for the social security numbers for their newborns at the hospital. The hospital provides the application along with the forms for the information they need for the birth certificates.
OP, where were you born? Where did you live when you got your first passport? If overseas, then did you go through the US Embassy? Where do you live now (approximately)?
Since 1987, when the IRS began requiring people provide the social security numbers of dependents, most parents apply for the social security numbers for their newborns at the hospital. The hospital provides the application along with the forms for the information they need for the birth certificates.
Okay, things have changed a lot. That is because the SS slush fund is being used far beyond it's original intent, which was a percentage set aside for your retirement.
So why does he need a SS# to get a passport? Isn't mobility a constitutional right for everybody? or should I say an inherent right?
Okay, things have changed a lot. That is because the SS slush fund is being used far beyond it's original intent, which was a percentage set aside for your retirement.
So why does he need a SS# to get a passport? Isn't mobility a constitutional right for everybody? or should I say an inherent right?
^^ What he said. If you or your parents never applied then you don't have one. You don't need one either unless you want an American license for something. (such as professional license or driver license) Also, remember as a US citizen the IRS wants you to report your worldwide income and failure to do so will result in large fines if they discover you haven't been.
If the OP owes, yes...but I lived overseas for years and while I filed tax returns, I knew American expats who did not file theirs in a timely manner, then would file all of the missing years at once prior to returning to the US. Since no money was owed because they exempted their foreign income, there were no fines or penalties. None faced any tax problems in the years since.
I am curious. Suppose DRBXGOLD comes to the United States, goes to the state he is a citizen of, and finds that his parents never signed him up for SS, so he does not have a SS number. If he goes to his local Drivers License bureau and applies for a driver's license, what does he put in the space marked "Social Scurity Number"?
Does he write NONE? Will they refuse him a license if he does, even if he brings his birth certificate from the state where he was born?
yes. he would have to go to SSA and apply for a SSN. He will then be given a form letter with His SSN on it. That letter can be used as proof of SSN untill his SSN card arives...he then could go to DMV and get a DL.
Okay, things have changed a lot. That is because the SS slush fund is being used far beyond it's original intent, which was a percentage set aside for your retirement.
So why does he need a SS# to get a passport? Isn't mobility a constitutional right for everybody? or should I say an inherent right?
You don't need a SSN in order to get a passport. You don't even need a SSN to pay taxes, however if you want a license of any type then you must have a SSN or show proof that you applied and were denied.
Most people are required to have a SSN because (for the most part) you can't drive or work without a license.
State ID? No SSN required.
Beautician license? SSN required
Driver license? SSN required
CPA license? SSN required
Series 7 license? SSN required
Bar license? SSN required
Medical license? SSN required
Contractor license? SSN required
Trade license? SSN required
BTW, when Social Security was first enacted in the 1930s, was participation mandatory for citizens living in the U.S.? If you didn't sign up (either at birth or later), were there any penalties?
If it wasn't mandatory then (I don't know) is it mandatory now?
No it has never been mandatory. But you need it for tax and employment purposes. If you don't have one, you can just apply it anytime.
I'm 65. When I went to work as a child I first had to get a social security card to get a paper route job.
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