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In conclusion: “Rossi said his office would seek permission from the Vatican, which is a sovereign state, to question officials. "This is just a piece in a much larger mosaic," he said.
In conclusion: “Rossi said his office would seek permission from the Vatican, which is a sovereign state, to question officials. "This is just a piece in a much larger mosaic," he said.
If you think that's bad you should see what the bankers did in the US.
People were pissed at Occupy but they should've been pissed at the appropriate parties.
Well they seem to indicate that more is going on. It is also noted that there is a serious transparency issue here. They have to actually get permission from the city itself to investigate further. So who knows what could be going on.
In 1982, Archbishop Paul Marcinkus then head of the Institute for the Works of Religion was indicted for laundering money for the Sicilian Mafia as well as his part in the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano.
In the 1990's the bank was involved in the laundering of money from the Gambino Crime Family.
And just as recent as the current bank scandal, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, President of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is being accused of secretly transferring $57 million inorder to thwart paying settlements to victims of child abuse.
In 1982, Archbishop Paul Marcinkus then head of the Institute for the Works of Religion was indicted for laundering money for the Sicilian Mafia as well as his part in the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano.
In the 1990's the bank was involved in the laundering of money from the Gambino Crime Family.
And just as recent as the current bank scandal, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, President of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is being accused of secretly transferring $57 million inorder to thwart paying settlements to victims of child abuse.
In conclusion: “Rossi said his office would seek permission from the Vatican, which is a sovereign state, to question officials. "This is just a piece in a much larger mosaic," he said.
That particular murder will likely remain unsolved, and the question whether the Vatican uses the mob as its tool of “retribution and righteous punishment” will remain unanswered...
The mafia has used the Vatican bank and not the other way around. Aside from stories of fiction the Da Vinci Code movie, the Vatican does not have assassins running around the world.
I really don't know why grown people find it so shocking organized crime gets their hands into the Church in Rome or its bank.
I'm sitting her in Milwaukee and have only sat in plane that briefly landed in Naples, Italy. That's the only time I've been in Italy. Yet, even I just assume that Italian or Sicilian mobsters have their hands in just about all the banks in Italy and Sicily.
The United States is not even an Italian nation-state but even the Italian mob in the U.S. infiltrated many areas of U.S. popular culture, politics, and industries. They even engineered the election of a U.S. President: JFK.
When the mob was strong in NYC its said that every building that went up in NYC the mob got a profit from. Basically the mafia was enriched through the construction development of the city that is the United States main financial center.
And the mafia once ruled Chicago, its courts, and politics. It ruled the Democratic Party in Chicago. Actually, the Democratic Party in Chicago has a long history of corruption. It was heavily influenced by Irish voting gangs like the Ragen Colts.
Originally established as an athletic club, the Ragen's Athletic and Benevolent Association was soon led by team pitcher Frank Ragen. He hired out members of the club to Chicago Democrat politicians to do various forms of election fraud. Due to the gang's activities and increased votes by recent immigrants, the Democratic Party soon gained control over the Chicago City Council and Illinois legislature.[citation needed]
The gang quickly expanded, numbering 160 members by 1902 and 2,000 by 1908. It earned the motto "Hit Me and You Hit 2,000". By the end of the decade, the gang had financed careers of hundreds of Chicago city officials, including prominent aldermen, police chiefs, and city treasurers, as well as Ragen himself. Ragen became Chicago police commissioner. By 1920, many members of the gang had become notorious criminals and gunmen, such as William "Gunner" McPadden, Harry Madigan, Joseph "Dynamite" Brooks, Danny McFall, Hughey "Stubby" McGovern, Davy "Yiddles" Miller and Ralph Sheldon.
But unlike Chicago the mafia goes back a lot longer in Italy. And the Italian culture going all the way back to ancient Rome was sort of mafia-like in culture. It was the normal arrangement that less well off people found rich patrons in ancient Rome among the patricians, protecting their homes and land, and doing other services for them, in exchange for political and monetary protection from the patrician they served.
Then centuries later with the warring Italian families that were rich, they were basically mafias themselves.
And it might comes as a surprise to some people, but supposedly, the Yakuza of Japan have their hands in every major business in Japan--and all the banks. So, every car from Japan and every electrical item from Japan people in the U.S. purchases only helps enriches the Japanese Yakuza, who by some people's account are the wealthiest organized crime in the world.
The Vatican Bank pays the money for retired nuns, priests, Bishops, Cardinals and so forth. It's doesn't pay jack for lay Catholics retiring in Chicago or Milwaukee after working years in the public sector or for private companies. So, if the clergy are robbing someone they are robbing themselves now aren't they?
Given clergy can face arrest in some nations like China (when the Soviet Union still existed the risk and numbers of countries were far greater), the Vatican Bank operates with a certain degree of secrecy too. As it should. I met a priest that would go to Saudi Arabia to secretly perform whatever it is religiously he was doing. If he was caught he would have been arrested and thrown in prison. You have underground Christian groups in Saudi Arabia that worship in secrecy. Some of the money in the Vatican is used to secretly funnel to priests in unwelcoming nations towards Christians that have a history of throwing Christians in prison for years. Vatican City itself is sovereign territory.
Let me take a guess... the U.S. Government is not exactly 100% transparent about all its foreign dealings and the money it funnels to CIA operatives and many others? Just a guess.
And unlike the Japanese banks--which because of the Yakuza--threw the world into a global recession many decades ago, the Vatican Bank is not big enough standing alone to throw the world into a global recession like U.S. banks did with their unethical schemes relating the subprime loans.
That's not to say the Vatican Bank isn't likely extraordinarily rich. I would suspect it is. The history of rich Europeans during the Reformations stealing Church properties (all those old, beautiful Anglican churches and old monastery building in England were once owned by the Catholic Church of England), should lead an adult, not a child, to be cautious about publicly listing all the properties and non-rapidly-liquid assets the Vatican owns. I wouldn't.
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