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Old 06-30-2013, 10:03 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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We are not allowed to vote away other citizens rights. Sorry
Gay marriage is not a civil right.

 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:07 PM
 
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If you think that the authors of the bill of rights included a "right" to same gender "marriage" you belong in a mental institution.
the "founders" weren't concerned with marriage, so why do you think they would have cared?

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laws are based on the meaning of the words when people come along and reinterpret the words to suit their own needs, not a single law in this country is immune form Judaical activism.
then how can you mis-interpret these words from the 14th Amendment:

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All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:08 PM
 
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Gay marriage is not a civil right.
USSC says it is. USSC says it's a basic human right.
since marriage is based in CIVIL law, then its a civil rights issue.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Gay marriage is not a civil right.
Why not? Because it severely imposes on your rights?
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Arus View Post
USSC says it is. USSC says it's a basic human right.
Wrong.

SCOTUS has never ruled that gay marriage is a "basic human right".
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:17 PM
 
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Wrong.

SCOTUS has never ruled that gay marriage is a "basic human right".
Why do gay bashers have to lie?

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Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival. Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535, 541 (1942). See also Maynard v. Hill, 125 U.S. 190 (1888). To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual, and cannot be infringed by the State.

Loving v. Virginia
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:21 PM
 
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USSC says it is. USSC says it's a basic human right.
since marriage is based in CIVIL law, then its a civil rights issue.

what if a state decided to get out of the marriage business entirely? is it a civil right then?
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why do gay bashers have to lie?




Loving v. Virginia
Loving v. Virginia had nothing to do with gay marriage.
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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what if a state decided to get out of the marriage business entirely? is it a civil right then?
IT will always be a civil right. And no state can get out of the "marriage" business completely, because the STATE must legalize a marriage (marriage licenses are only issued by a state)
 
Old 06-30-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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what if a state decided to get out of the marriage business entirely? is it a civil right then?
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