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A "mild fatty liver" can be caused by alcohol and medication. Logically, that doesn't mean he had them in his system that very day, because it would take time for the condition to show itself.
I am just saying that there are FB posts that proves he was involved in the "drank" or "lean", he had THC in his system - he isn't the innocent child the media keeps trying to portray.
Having this type of behavioral history can show that he could be an aggressive person.
I don't know how much of this personal information the Defense will be allowed. But, if they are going to show GZ as having ill will from his past history, they could be on equal footing as to TM's history as well.
Today, before the Defense makes it case, I rule it a Hung Jury.
I don't think using alcohol or codeine suggests that someone "could be an aggressive person." That's quite a leap in logic. Maybe while under the influence of those substances, but not otherwise. And he did not have those drugs in his system, so I don't get your argument at all.
You're still trying to say that Trayvon had some kind of "thug" background, but he didn't. There's nothing to support that except for the teenage braggadocio of tweets and instagram. He had a caring mother and a caring father; they were divorced but so are a lot of people.
Both his parents were college graduates, his brother is in his third year at university studying Information Tech. When a conservative hacker invaded Trayvon's G-mail account, it showed e-mails about SAT courses, and colleges. Just because they're black doesn't make them thugs!
You remember every move but can you execute it in a real world application???
Not while you are sparring in a comfortable air conditioned gym with no fight or.flight kicking your adrenaline into overdrive...
Probably not, but I did take the class 10 years ago for one time. George took MMA classes three times a week for how long, and how close in the time to the incident? I don't know, and neither does the jury because there was only brief mention of it by the physician's assistant.
But I think it should have been looked into more, or at least let the jury know how many hours of MMA fitness classes he completed.
I don't think using alcohol or codeine suggests that someone "could be an aggressive person." That's quite a leap in logic. Maybe while under the influence of those substances, but not otherwise. And he did not have those drugs in his system, so I don't get your argument at all.
You're still trying to say that Trayvon had some kind of "thug" background, but he didn't. There's nothing to support that except for the teenage braggadocio of tweets and instagram. He had a caring mother and a caring father; they were divorced but so are a lot of people.
Both his parents were college graduates, his brother is in his third year at university studying Information Tech. When a conservative hacker invaded Trayvon's G-mail account, it showed e-mails about SAT courses, and colleges. Just because they're black doesn't make them thugs!
You can get a pretty good idea by a person's likes on FB - it's their hangout site.
You can also get a view of personal preferences with someone's YouTube subscription's:
Arming Wrestling - Underground street fighting - MMA style street fights
About Mike Mike - MMA street fighting
Day Today - SXSW - pot culture and use
Evil Knievel, Jr - pot culture and use
Baby In a Truck - specific drug use for teens
You can get a pretty good idea by a person's likes on FB - it's their hangout site.
You can also get a view of personal preferences with someone's YouTube subscription's:
Arming Wrestling - Underground street fighting - MMA style street fights
About Mike Mike - MMA street fighting
Day Today - SXSW - pot culture and use
Evil Knievel, Jr - pot culture and use
Baby In a Truck - specific drug use for teens
We will see what the Defense brings out next week. I'm putting it out for possible consideration.
You're going to bring someone's Youtube subscriptions into proving his lifestyle?
The subscriptions he had on Youtube, or the groups he liked on Facebook, or whatever, have no relevance whatsoever to this case, given that he wasn't engaged in anything criminal or violent or drug-related when this incident occurred. Totally far-fetched.
His lifestyle, whatever it was, whether it consisted of lying in a hammock all day listening to reggae music and smoking weed, or drinking codeine-laced drinks all day (of which there is absolutely no evidence), or watching violent videos (like every other 17 year old boy and a lot of older "boys" in this world), has nothing to do with this case---nothing.
You're going to bring someone's Youtube subscriptions into proving his lifestyle?
The subscriptions he had on Youtube, or the groups he liked on Facebook, or whatever, have no relevance whatsoever to this case, given that he wasn't engaged in anything criminal or violent or drug-related when this incident occurred. Totally far-fetched.
His lifestyle, whatever it was, whether it consisted of lying in a hammock all day listening to reggae music and smoking weed, or drinking codeine-laced drinks all day (of which there is absolutely no evidence), or watching violent videos (like every other 17 year old boy and a lot of older "boys" in this world), has nothing to do with this case---nothing.
If I purchase Penthouse, it shows I like porn. Hello! If I have specific Boards on Pinterest, it shows a lot about myself personally.
His character is relevant to this case just as much as everyone is commenting on GZ's frame of mind and character. You want to call GZ a liar all day long, but you don't want to look at anything related to TM's window.
The autopsy speaks - hepatic Parenchyma yellow-brown homogeneous and congested. That shows that the Parenchyma cells in the liver are yellow-brown because the cells are dying due to toxic materials. Pyridine found in Marijuana is toxic. He mentions DXM. Smoking DXM produces toxic chemicals when it reacts to oxygen. So, I'm just looking at his liver. He didn't have to smoke much MJ that day or use DXM, but he has and his liver shows that could be a factor.
We will see if more details on his autopsy report are questioned. The ME sure looked like he was not wanting to answer questions.
If I purchase Penthouse, it shows I like porn. Hello! If I have specific Boards on Pinterest, it shows a lot about myself personally.
His character is relevant to this case just as much as everyone is commenting on GZ's frame of mind and character. You want to call GZ a liar all day long, but you don't want to look at anything related to TM's window.
The autopsy speaks - hepatic Parenchyma yellow-brown homogeneous and congested. That shows that the Parenchyma cells in the liver are yellow-brown because the cells are dying due to toxic materials. Pyridine found in Marijuana is toxic. He mentions DXM. Smoking DXM produces toxic chemicals when it reacts to oxygen. So, I'm just looking at his liver. He didn't have to smoke much MJ that day or use DXM, but he has and his liver shows that could be a factor.
We will see if more details on his autopsy report are questioned. The ME sure looked like he was not wanting to answer questions.
Why would past marijuana use be a factor in this case? If he was high at the time of the incident, that might have some faint significance, but he wasn't, so what's your point? Many young people smoke weed at some time or another, and so do many adults. What's that go to do with the Zimmerman case?
Even if Trayvon was a secret life-long alcoholic at age 17, or if Zimmerman was an alcoholic and had a fatty liver, so what--why would it matter to this case or trial? Lots of people are alcoholics, does that mean they can be murdered at will?
No Trayvon's character is not relevant to this case. He could be the meanest, nastiest, most vile creature, who watched porn all day long, and it wouldn't mean anything. A history of violence might have had some relevance, but he has no history of violent behavior, and please don't tell me watching videos proves that. Again, even Zimmerman's real history of violence is not being allowed into testimony. Why would Trayvon's, if he even had one, be allowed
Zimmerman is on trial because he killed someone. Even his character is not relevant, let alone the victim's. His lies, if they are lies, are only relevant as it pertains to the incident, not his lies outside of this case. That's irrelevant.
Why would past marijuana use be a factor in this case? If he was high at the time of the incident, that might have some faint significance, but he wasn't, so what's your point? Many young people smoke weed at some time or another, and so do many adults. What's that go to do with the Zimmerman case?
Even if Trayvon was a secret life-long alcoholic at age 17, or if Zimmerman was an alcoholic and had a fatty liver, so what--why would it matter to this case or trial? Lots of people are alcoholics, does that mean they can be murdered at will?
No Trayvon's character is not relevant to this case. He could be the meanest, nastiest, most vile creature, who watched porn all day long, and it wouldn't mean anything. A history of violence might have had some relevance, but he has no history of violent behavior, and please don't tell me watching videos proves that. Again, even Zimmerman's real history of violence is not being allowed into testimony. Why would Trayvon's, if he even had one, be allowed
Zimmerman is on trial because he killed someone. Even his character is not relevant, let alone the victim's.
Okay, so let me get this straight - You can bring out details of GZ's past to profile him as an aggressor, but nothing involved in TM's past is to be brought to the table in order to be discussed at all. Are you related to this biased Judge?
Okay, so let me get this straight - You can bring out details of GZ's past to profile him as an aggressor, but nothing involved in TM's past is to be brought to the table in order to be discussed at all. Are you related to this biased Judge?
What parts of Trayvon's past, of which we know very little, and none of which is relevant anyway in a trial, would suggest that he be profiled as an "aggressor?" He didn't have a history of violence, so please tell me....
I'm not profiling, but I am describing Zimmerman as violent because he friggin' killed Trayvon!. That's not profiling, profiling is making suppositions about a person's history without any knowledge, because they share outward characteristics of some criminals, kind of like what Zimmerman did to Trayvon, and what you are attempting to do to Trayvon. Zimmerman's past history of violence is not allowed in court, rightly so. But he did have a history of violence, not huge, but more than most people. Whereas Trayvon had none.
And the reason George's MMA classes are significant to me is that he may have learned some MMA style fighting moves, and the one witness described seeing what he thought of as MMA-style fighting in the incident. As well, Serino mentioned the significance of having fighting expertise in his statement, and said neither Zimmerman nor Trayvon had this, but Zimmerman did. That's why I find that significant, not because it means George is aggressive.
What parts of Trayvon's past, of which we know very little, and none of which is relevant anyway in a trial, would suggest that he be profiled as an "aggressor?" He didn't have a history of violence, so please tell me....
I'm not profiling, but I am describing Zimmerman as violent because he friggin' killed Trayvon!. That's not profiling, profiling is making suppositions about a person's history without any knowledge, because they share outward characteristics of some criminals, kind of like what Zimmerman did to Trayvon, and what you are attempting to do to Trayvon. Zimmerman's past history of violence is not allowed in court, rightly so. But he did have a history of violence, not huge, but more than most people. Whereas Trayvon had none.
And the reason George's MMA classes are significant to me is that he may have learned some MMA style fighting moves, and the one witness described seeing what he thought of as MMA-style fighting in the incident. As well, Serino mentioned the significance of having fighting expertise in his statement, and said neither Zimmerman nor Trayvon had this, but Zimmerman did. That's why I find that significant, not because it means George is aggressive.
If we look at GZ taking MMA instruction, then we can look at TM's YouTube subscriptions and phone texts/videos about his MMA street fighting. Fair is fair.
And, BTW, I apologize for the comment about being related to the biased Judge. I don't like to interject that type of wording when I am in a conversation. I've been involved in this conversation too long today and it is late, and I feel tired - I better give it a rest.
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