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Old 07-08-2013, 01:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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You are never going to be going to jail or have to pay a fine or even just get a warning for not overthrowing the government
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Oh for god's sake the Declaration is a freaking declaration, it isn't a law and it certainly wasn't passed by any legislative body of the United States.

Enough internet posting, grab your gun and storm the barricades why don't you?
Looks like we're getting the usual hysterical ranting by the usual leftists who hate what they're hearing but can't refute it. That, plus the usual holding their hands over their ears and saying loudly, "LA LA LA LA LA, no it isn't, no it isn't, I can't hear you, LA LA LA LA LA LA". And with the usual complete lack of facts of references to back up their rants.

In fact, the Declaration was passed by the duly empowered lawmaking body of the time, the Second Continental Congress, and is as legal and binding as anything else that group passed. On of the things it said, of course, was that overthrowing an oppressive government was NOT illegal, but was a right and even a duty.

So the leftists who try to call any attempt to protest the ever-more-oppressive Obama government "Treasonous" or "un-American", are flat wrong, as usual. Resisting such an oppressive government is eminently legal, is endorsed by the Founders themselves, and has been that way literally from the moment this country was founded.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:35 PM
 
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3% today? no.... 30 to 50% yes.
People are waking up every day,learning via the web about the Constution and the proper role of government , and the abuse of an all power government dailiy.
LOL, people are all talk.

No way in hell they are going to risk their Ipads and flat screen tv's.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: North America
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"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.

And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.

Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.

It's not the LAW. Try not being so ignorant the next time you want to overthrow the government.

Still scared of the brown guy in the White House? Take another Xanax.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.

And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.

Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.
So then, start up a revolution. March into the White House, Congress, wherever & start collapsing the government. Let's see how far you get. I'll sit back & watch with my popcorn.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Looks like we're getting the usual hysterical ranting by the usual leftists who hate what they're hearing but can't refute it. That, plus the usual holding their hands over their ears and saying loudly, "LA LA LA LA LA, no it isn't, no it isn't, I can't hear you, LA LA LA LA LA LA". And with the usual complete lack of facts of references to back up their rants.
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It's not the LAW. Try not being so ignorant the next time you want to overthrow the government.
See? There goes another one.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Looks like we're getting the usual hysterical ranting by the usual leftists who hate what they're hearing but can't refute it. That, plus the usual holding their hands over their ears and saying loudly, "LA LA LA LA LA, no it isn't, no it isn't, I can't hear you, LA LA LA LA LA LA". And with the usual complete lack of facts of references to back up their rants.

In fact, the Declaration was passed by the duly empowered lawmaking body of the time, the Second Continental Congress, and is as legal and binding as anything else that group passed. On of the things it said, of course, was that overthrowing an oppressive government was NOT illegal, but was a right and even a duty.

So the leftists who try to call any attempt to protest the ever-more-oppressive Obama government "Treasonous" or "un-American", are flat wrong, as usual. Resisting such an oppressive government is eminently legal, is endorsed by the Founders themselves, and has been that way literally from the moment this country was founded.
So if you feel it's a duty...what are you actually doing about it, besides pointing fingers at other people and calling them names for not 'rising up'?
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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It wasn't 3% of the population - it estimated that 1/3 of those in the colonies were either active or passively so, in the separatist movement. Also, 1/3 is thought to be ambivalent and the remaining 1/3 either active or passively Tory. Probably more passively Tory than active within that 1/3.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.

And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.

Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.
Not convinced that you are a radical or rebel.

I think your blowing hot air, nothing more.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: North America
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See? There goes another one.

Do you want to address your error?

Probably not.
.

So grab your big old gun and head for Washington. Or are you just all talk and no pants?

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Old 07-08-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.
The DoI is not a law. Even this foreigner knows that. Your premise is completely unfounded.

Anyway, as for your right - nay, obligation - to revolt when you can't get people to vote your way, wasn't there a bit of a dust-up in the 1860s that settled that?

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