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Old 07-18-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's only a matter of (probably short) time that the amount of $$$ in the weed industry becomes better known and when it does, the lobby will have the $$$ required to buy the votes they need.

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Old 07-18-2013, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The bottom line is....if you are making an argument that white kids are as, or more, drugged out as their black counterparts...AND that this drug use stems from psychological trauma...the proof is, white kids still whip tail in testing. And you think that's because they more likely come home to a nuclear western family as opposed to their black counterpart? And very likely a dysfunctional one?
Trauma as the trigger is not my argument.

If trauma was the primary trigger for addiction, one would think those who survived say the Holocaust would have had a substantially greater disposition towards alcoholism and addiction.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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Trauma as the trigger is not my argument.

If trauma was the primary trigger for addiction, one would think those who survived say the Holocaust would have had a substantially greater disposition towards alcoholism and addiction.
Well, what about Vietnam vets?
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:35 AM
 
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You can make statistics say whatever you want if you hold them hostage long enough...

The "FACE" of opiate abuse are YOUNG BLACK MALES on a WORLDWIDE platform....GLORIFYING IT.

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What is your problem? This thread is about heroin abuse by whites. Someone must be living in a cave if they can't wrap that fact around their head & instead insist on spinning it to be a black thing. Better be careful, might be accused of being racist.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:38 AM
 
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What is your problem? This thread is about heroin abuse by whites. Someone must be living in a cave if they can't wrap that fact around their head & instead insist on spinning it to be a black thing. Better be careful, might be accused of being racist.
If the article said YOUNG BLACK MALES: THE FACE OF HEROIN (and the argument can totally be made)

would that have been racist?

"Better be careful"..you might be trying to cling to propaganda and the use of loaded terms.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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As so often is the case, it took yet another celebrity death for the NYT to wake up and notice what has been going on around the country for years.
Hard drug use is rampant among higher income young people and there is nothing "new" about it.
Why?
Because they can afford it.
Because it is regarded as just one more benefit of having money like buying a BMW or Benz.
Because they know that they can get away with it - drug testing is for welfare recipients.

Oh, sure, some of them may be self-medicating but unless/until they start nodding off on street corners or stop showing up for work, no one is going to even notice as long as they keep functioning and keep being "special" like Mr. Monteith.

Interesting commentary on our times: the faces of terrorism and drug addiction are not what we think they should be, are they?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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If the article said YOUNG BLACK MALES: THE FACE OF HEROIN (and the argument can totally be made)

would that have been racist?

"Better be careful"..you might be trying to cling to propaganda and the use of loaded terms.
It's too bad you don't listen to facts. Now who's the one who's clinging to propaganda?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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whites like smack because it's what is around. it's like an underground suburban drug. when I was younger, I knew more whites on opiates than on crack.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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It's too bad you don't listen to facts. Now who's the one who's clinging to propaganda?
No, it's too bad you want to use skewed facts. Again, you don't see hundreds of white celebrities glorifying the use of opiates...you only see BLACK artists doing it.

Millions of white people eat SUBWAY everyday....are they the "face" of it?

No, Jared is....

Are black people the face of RAPE? Like overwhelmingly? You know what I find funny is that we can dig up tons of studies where they go by gross population within demographics. When it comes to negative social phenomenons and BLACK people trump their racial counterparts per capita AND grossly??? Then all of a sudden..it's "racist"... Hey maybe I will make THAT thread. Let's see how fast it gets closed. I bet it won't get past one page.

And lastly, you want to answer the question? Or dance around it again?

If the article was "BLACK MEN: THE FACE OF HEROIN" and please...PLEASE don't ignore my premise here. Try to follow along...

Would it be racist?
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:25 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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whites like smack because it's what is around. it's like an underground suburban drug. when I was younger, I knew more whites on opiates than on crack.

When I was in high school, cigarettes, alcohol, pot, were the most popular. And to some degree acid, and shrooms. I never saw cocaine until college. Heroin was not even a thought, and I always thought it was a "60s" or "70s" thing. Meth wasn't around either.
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