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Old 07-19-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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First of all anyone can write anything and have investors.com reprint it on their website so, no, they're not creditable as a source. Second of all they don't have a single cite listed in that whole attack piece and given how the right wing constantly lies I will not believe any of their made up numbers until their is actual good science behind it.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Blacks are also much more likely than whites to be VICTIMS of murder.

So, according to the prevailing "logic," there must be a national campaign to increase gun ownership among blacks -- particularly among young black males, who are disproportionately represented as murder victims. Because widespread gun ownership is the only way to reduce crime.

Right?
Arm them. The honest people won't use guns for evil and the rest are already armed.
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Old 07-19-2013, 01:06 PM
 
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Holder doesn't want to have a conversation about race, he wants to give a lecture on race.
The Conversation Holder Doesn't Really Want
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No honest conversation about race is possible when accusations of racism replace reasoned arguments. Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, who mentioned high rates of crime among black males, was rewarded with the racist label within minutes by some of those (The Atlantic, Slate) who presumably agree with Holder that we are too timid when discussing race.

Many American liberals are achingly nostalgic for old-fashioned racism. It offered them a helium high of moral superiority. It was deserved ... in 1967. But by perpetuating the fiction that modern America has not changed, they've become more than ridiculous, more even than grossly unjust, they've become dangerous. Look around you. The violence and bitterness that have followed the Zimmerman verdict were virtually ordered up by convicted slanderer Al Sharpton and his many imitators.
Obama just "kicked it up a notch" - Trayvon Martin has been elevated from 'son of Obama' to Obama himself. Sharpton loved the Obama speech - gasoline on the fire, just in time for the weekend protests.
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Old 07-19-2013, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I'd like to see hapless Republicans stop focusing on those blacks on the bottom, citing statistics which show the struggle for survivial in these segments, and do something, ANYTHING, to lessen the differences between us. Republicans don't want to have a conversation about race because of the utter worthlessness that their ideology has proven to be in this area. I think you better leave Holder alone. He's got you beat.

Blacks on the bottom may be killing each other, but what in the hell is the typical Republican's excuse for being so clueless about all issues involving race, civil rights, and equality? You Regressives are too small-minded to even recognize the contributions of the extraordinary number of brilliant, accomplished, educated, and talented blacks. You're far more of a detriment to this society than even the most ignorant black person since society gives you every consideration, yet you chose remain clueless.

Forget about trying to have a conversation with Holder. Get better informed, educate YOURSELVES, and join us in the 21st century.
We would much rather teach a man to fish and have him eat for a lifetime than give a man a fish and eat for a day. Unfortunately, these people are so caught up with playing the victim and blaming everyone else for their problems the could care less about learning anything. I could post quotes from many successful blacks that know this is all about liberals feeding racial bigotry to line their pockets but, they ignore their own people because it doesn't fit and fill their personal hatred that gives them a reason to wake up each morning.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I'd like to see hapless Republicans stop focusing on those blacks on the bottom, citing statistics which show the struggle for survivial in these segments, and do something, ANYTHING, to lessen the differences between us. Republicans don't want to have a conversation about race because of the utter worthlessness that their ideology has proven to be in this area. I think you better leave Holder alone. He's got you beat.

Blacks on the bottom may be killing each other, but what in the hell is the typical Republican's excuse for being so clueless about all issues involving race, civil rights, and equality? You Regressives are too small-minded to even recognize the contributions of the extraordinary number of brilliant, accomplished, educated, and talented blacks. You're far more of a detriment to this society than even the most ignorant black person since society gives you every consideration, yet you chose remain clueless.

Forget about trying to have a conversation with Holder. Get better informed, educate YOURSELVES, and join us in the 21st century.
Our inner cities have been a many decades long experiment in liberal social policies. Has that worked well for everyone?

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Old 07-19-2013, 04:23 PM
 
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Our inner cities have been a decades long experiment in liberal social policies. Has that worked well for everyone?
Detroit was a 60 year long experiment in Liberal policies.

Obama said he'd never let Detroit go bankrupt. However....they are! Doesn't really matter if a judge denies them bankruptcy or not....they are broke and Democrats have no one to blame for it but themselves.

This is America's near future as well if we keep ignoring what happens when Democrats are in charge.



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Old 07-19-2013, 04:29 PM
 
Location: texas
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The following stats are from a recent justice department study:

Holder's Own Study Puts Lie To Claim Blacks Under Threat From Whites - Investors.com

"The precise data show that even though black men between the ages of 14 and 24 make up only 1% of the U.S. population, they represent 27% of all the nation's murderers. This bears repeating: 1% of Americans are committing over a quarter of the murders.
Equally alarming, the administration study also found that blacks of any age are eight times more likely to murder than whites.
While blacks make up just 13% of the population, they're responsible for more than half — 53% — of the country's murders. By comparison, "whites" (Justice includes Hispanics in its "white" category) account for 83% of the population but less than half — 45% — of homicides."
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It's odd that the Investor's Business Daily, a page that shows almost every type of graph, table, chart in the business world...would fail to even name the report or even link the information. Pisspoor Job IBD.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:33 PM
 
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You're right. I said this in another thread. Liberal after liberal says we need a discussion, a conversation, about race in this country. Yet every time they get that opportunity, they use it to divide and they dont focus on the real issues of race. They dont acknowledge the fact that its more of the black community keeping themselves down, than it is racism.

What they do instead is, take an incident and a make it high profile. Whether race is really involved or not, they make sure they twist it so it race is the sole focus. Just like the recent GZ incident. Racism had zero, zilch, nada to do with it. But the media and the liberals in power made damn sure they twisted it to make the ignorant believe it was.
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:38 PM
 
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The following stats are from a recent justice department study:

Holder's Own Study Puts Lie To Claim Blacks Under Threat From Whites - Investors.com

"The precise data show that even though black men between the ages of 14 and 24 make up only 1% of the U.S. population, they represent 27% of all the nation's murderers. This bears repeating: 1% of Americans are committing over a quarter of the murders.
The "precise data" from that article isn't precise. It's actually way off the actual numbers.

The FBI Uniform Crime Reports data shows that in 2010, out of a total of 15,094 homicides, 2035 were committed by black males under the age of 22. That's 13.5 % of all homicides.


FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 3
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Old 07-19-2013, 04:45 PM
 
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It's odd that the Investor's Business Daily, a page that shows almost every type of graph, table, chart in the business world...would fail to even name the report or even link the information. Pisspoor Job IBD.
It's not hard to find the report if you just Google one of the quotes from it. It's a PDF file where you can see the statistics are quoted accurately from a report by the DOJ in 2008.

I would post the lunk to the PDF file ( it was the 3rd link when I Googled the quote) but I can't copy the link on my phone's browser.

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