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Old 07-21-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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This is crazy, you have no right to refuse if the cops suspect you are under the influence, in Douglas County, Georgia.
If you refuse a breathalizer, they get a search warrant, strap you down to a guerney, put you in a headlock and draw your blood anyway. Since you refused, your license is suspended for a year as punishment.
They claim that more people die in this county from drunk drivers than murders. That may be true, but I also believe most of the time they kill themselves. The limits have been severely lowered, and murder rate is down.
This system feeds off convictions.
This must be a big money maker for counties and states, as well as another way to intimidate the public. Yesterday I read that NYPD have quotas for doing random searches of people on the streets, by some whistleblower cops that say they are pressured to fill the jail cells.

So the question is; What is an unreasonable search? What rights do we have to our bodies against self-incrimination? Maybe this would be justified in the case of a vehicle accident with injuries, otherwise I think it's insane.


Every driver who refuses to blow is strapped to a table, put in a headlock, blood forcibly taken - YouTube
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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The right to your own body is only for killing babies.


In Texas you "consent" when you get your license in the first place.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Just because it's legal, does not mean it's Consitutional. This needs to go to the Supreme Court. I'm not even sure they uphold the Constitution anymore, TSA gets away with these invasions everyday.
We have forsaken our liberty for the false illusion of safety.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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The right to your own body is only for killing babies.


In Texas you "consent" when you get your license in the first place.
So, I guess you have a choice to get a license or drive without one. Perhaps it's worth the risk.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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Got damn, I love being a Free 'Murican.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:51 PM
 
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We have unlimited government now. It does whatever it wants and the supreme court rubber stamps it.

Look at the supposed conservative Roberts, nominated by supposed conservative Bush who cast the deciding vote in favor of socialised obamacare.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Driving is a privilege. If you choose to participate in that activity, which is regulated by state and local law, then you have agreed to the conditions placed on that participation, in the form of you applying for and the state issuing a driver license.

Yes, it's Constitutional. Why wouldn't it be? You have no right to a driver license or to drive on public roads. If you don't want to be subject to the laws and conditions of doing that, don't get a driver license and don't drive. Simple.
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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» Report: Bicyclist Flees Country After Oregon Police Force Catheterization Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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One of the officers then told Barnes that he witnessed him riding his bike standing up, which is a crime in the state of Oregon. Barnes was skeptical of the statute, so he asked the officer to provide the Oregon State Legislative numbers on the law. The officer denied knowing them and began to make calls on his radio.
Officer Joshua Wilson shortly arrived on the scene and began the interrogation on Barnes all over again, demanding he present his ID. Officer Wilson read the statute to Barnes and told him he was being charged with “failure to use a bicycle seat.”
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“By my own power I dropped to my knees and went face down on the ground, trying to pinch off my urine flow,” said Barnes.
“Officer Wilson then came over and stood with full force on the small of my back, applying painful pressure to my bladder which made it so I could not stop urinating. I remained on the bathroom floor in the hospital in a puddle of my own urine while he used his radio to call security.”
“I was then told they were going to catheterize me.”
Barnes expressed his “religious and moral objections” adding that he strongly opposed this action.
Panicked, and begging and pleading with officials not to catheterize him, the hospital staff proceeded to strap down his feet while officers and security guards held down his arms. Barnes continued to plead with staff saying he’d submit the UA via the cup, but Officer Wilson refused to wait any longer and ordered the catheter.
Barnes said, “After Officer Wilson and the others assisted the medical staff in removing my pants and underwear, he took my penis in his hands and forced a very long catheter into my urethra while I was screaming, crying, and very much sober and awake.”
“The invasion felt nothing short of rape. I screamed for an attorney and an impartial observer and received none. The pain was excruciating, the procedure was humiliating, and the worst wasn’t over.”
How can we still choose to ignore **** like this?
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Old 07-21-2013, 12:57 PM
 
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Driving is a privilege. If you choose to participate in that activity, which is regulated by state and local law, then you have agreed to the conditions placed on that participation, in the form of you applying for and the state issuing a driver license.

Yes, it's Constitutional. Why wouldn't it be? You have no right to a driver license or to drive on public roads. If you don't want to be subject to the laws and conditions of doing that, don't get a driver license and don't drive. Simple.
Get back to us when you're strapped down and forced to give up your DNA.
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Old 07-21-2013, 01:03 PM
 
Location: texas
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Driving is a privilege. If you choose to participate in that activity, which is regulated by state and local law, then you have agreed to the conditions placed on that participation, in the form of you applying for and the state issuing a driver license.

Yes, it's Constitutional. Why wouldn't it be? You have no right to a driver license or to drive on public roads. If you don't want to be subject to the laws and conditions of doing that, don't get a driver license and don't drive. Simple.
Although Driving is a priviledge, you don't suspend your civil liberties and constitional rights.
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