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Old 07-27-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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It certainly wouldn't be the first time.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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they are just pointing out cause and effect nature of the ACA. Looks like democrats didn't think it out too well but of course you need to read it to do that. But of course republicans have nothing to do with unions and IRS complaining now about the bill. Its a democrat Max Baucus who recently called the ACA a train wreck.
Fundamentally a lot of this criticism comes in the form of comparing the reality of the ACA to an abstract idealized system rather than comparing it to the status quo. Whatever the failings of Obamacare, it's better than what we had.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Fundamentally a lot of this criticism comes in the form of comparing the reality of the ACA to an abstract idealized system rather than comparing it to the status quo. Whatever the failings of Obamacare, it's better than what we had.
Really? Or is that an abstract idealized idea about something that has yet to even be implemented?

Maybe you ought to wait and see if it really is cheaper, doesn't force people from plans they like, doesn't force people to change doctors, doesn't cause a shortage of doctors, and doesn't reduce the quality of care and innovation that was a hallmark of the US heath system?

PS: We were promised that the ACA was a "jobs bill" that would "create 400,000 jobs almost immediately" - that never materialized either.



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Old 07-27-2013, 08:50 PM
 
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Fundamentally a lot of this criticism comes in the form of comparing the reality of the ACA to an abstract idealized system rather than comparing it to the status quo. Whatever the failings of Obamacare, it's better than what we had.
Better than what we had? Keep hope alive I guess at all cost.. I'll never understand how you guys can go so blindly into supporting failed policies like this.

Please share with me whats better about creatign policies that will cut back hours worked for the average individual, requiring them to get 2nd part time jobs, neither of which will have benefits?

What a tool.. its almost embarassing that people like you still support crap..
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:00 PM
Status: "College baseball this weekend." (set 4 days ago)
 
Location: Suburban Dallas
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Default Re: Obamacare Call Center Will Not Offer Healthcare Benefits to Employees

President Bankruptcy has a call center??
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:07 PM
 
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Fundamentally a lot of this criticism comes in the form of comparing the reality of the ACA to an abstract idealized system rather than comparing it to the status quo. Whatever the failings of Obamacare, it's better than what we had.
Better than what you had maybe.
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Old 07-27-2013, 09:07 PM
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Half of the jobs are part time:
I guess that's what President Deceit meant by shovel-ready jobs. He's digging all Americans a grave.
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