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View Poll Results: What Direction Do You Want The Country To Go In?
Smaller Government, More Freedom, More Personal Responsibility 139 70.20%
Bigger Government, Less Freedom, Less Personal Responsibility 10 5.05%
Other 47 23.74%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 198. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-16-2013, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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Who is going to pay for a taxi service, certainly not the school. If you want to send your child to a school out of the bus service area then that's your responsibility. But of course most parents won't pay. Sorry, I'm not paying for your kids to go outside of their school district.
As part of the terms of the contract of service for the year, School Vouchers would create a industry in education creating massive profit intensives, so schools would have to compete for students by offering services and higher quality classes.

Why should you decide where other people send their kids? why cant every kid receive a voucher for a fix amount of money and let his parents decide on where to send him?

 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:18 PM
 
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As part of the terms of the contract of service for the year, School Vouchers would create a industry in education creating massive profit intensives, so schools would have to compete for students by offering services and higher quality classes.

Why should you decide where other people send their kids? why cant every kid receive a voucher for a fix amount of money and let his parents decide on where to send him?
School vouchers are big government.

What happened to personal responsibility?? Why must the government pay for you to send your kid to private school?

nanny stater
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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School vouchers are big government.
How so? they give more choice to parents and break the government cartel on education...how is that expending the powers of government?
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:23 PM
 
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How so? they give more choice to parents and break the government cartel on education...how is that expending the powers of government?
Parents are free to send their kids to private schools, let them pay for it.

But you want big government to give people money to send their kids to private schools

That's not personal responsibility.

I went to private school and I never got a voucher. My kid went to private school, no voucher either.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:26 PM
 
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How so? they give more choice to parents and break the government cartel on education...how is that expending the powers of government?
Pay for it yourself, not with a subsidy with money from other taxpayers. I thought you were the guys who believe that if you cannot pay for it yourself, you need to "work harder?" Why aren't you telling poor families to "work harder" to be able to send their kids to private schools?

I can tell you why the architects of these voucher programs push these initiatives: They don't believe in a free and public education for all. They're smart to wrap up these proposals in this idea that they just want poor folks to be able to send their kids to better schools.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:28 PM
 
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As part of the terms of the contract of service for the year, School Vouchers would create a industry in education creating massive profit intensives, so schools would have to compete for students by offering services and higher quality classes.

Why should you decide where other people send their kids? why cant every kid receive a voucher for a fix amount of money and let his parents decide on where to send him?


That's fine but who is going to pay for the transportation. You think schools should, sorry. Not their job.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:32 PM
 
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Parents are free to send their kids to private schools, let them pay for it.

But you want big government to give people money to send their kids to private schools

That's not personal responsibility.

I went to private school and I never got a voucher. My kid went to private school, no voucher either.

I went to private school too and my mom worked 2 jobs to send us there. There was no voucher. And there was no transportation. I walked over a mile to school.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:33 PM
 
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Pay for it yourself, not with a subsidy with money from other taxpayers. I thought you were the guys who believe that if you cannot pay for it yourself, you need to "work harder?" Why aren't you telling poor families to "work harder" to be able to send their kids to private schools?

I can tell you why the architects of these voucher programs push these initiatives: They don't believe in a free and public education for all. They're smart to wrap up these proposals in this idea that they just want poor folks to be able to send their kids to better schools.
Sounds like the OP wants more government and less personal responsibility.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's amazing that this country has gone in the exact opposite direction that it was designed to go in. A country created for limited government, free press, press speech, government transparency, equal power to the people, and a basic right to privacy has become a country with huge government, alphabet soup secret agencies, political prisoners who spoke out against the government, no state rights and no individual firearm rights, and no right to privacy. Amazing.
 
Old 08-16-2013, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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School vouchers are big government.

What happened to personal responsibility?? Why must the government pay for you to send your kid to private school?

nanny stater
Oh now you want personal responsibility.

It would not have to be a private school, but the voucher be used in such a manner.

Why not? this system could be worse then what we have..what is the worst possible outcome of this?
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