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Old 08-15-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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You have to read Historydude post that I was replying to.
yes.

so again, what is your support for a "clinton insider"?
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Old 08-15-2013, 10:00 PM
 
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yep. here the feeding frenzy turns to rep. jeff miller (R FL).
more on the birthers and rep miller:

P P S I M M O N S: EXPOSED CONGRESSMAN MILLER - His Office STILL INSISTS...

it seems the congressman has agreed to a private meeting with carl gallups but specifically without zullo.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:23 AM
 
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It's worth mentioning the controversy over Obama's citizenship began with leaked e-mails from supporters of Hillary Clinton's Campaign....
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It first surfaced in the primaries by a Clinton insider.
would still like to see what evidence supports these claims.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:55 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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would still like to see what evidence supports these claims.

I was agreeing with Historydude that it was a clinton insider.
I'm sure an internet search brings it up for you.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Is that because there's some sort of assumption that the mother will take her husband's citizenship? I'm wondering why out-of-wedlock births have less restrictions on them if the mother is a U.S. citizenship.
I thought she married the father, against the wishes of both parents, by the time her son was born.

I think, at the time, she was blissfully unaware that Obama Sr. was already married and a father back home.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:03 AM
 
Location: North America
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No, he's just bat **** crazy.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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I was agreeing with Historydude that it was a clinton insider.
did you read HD's quote? he said the exact opposite:

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Wrong. No such e-mails exist. Nobody from the CLinton campaign has ever once been connected with the birthers.
what he did point out was the first birther lawsuit was filed by a hillary supporter (not insider), phil berg, months after the origin of birtherism.

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A Hillary supporter did file the first lawsuit. But that was months after birthism has been invented and blown into a "controversy" at the right-wing web forum Free Republic.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:13 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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...the president was born on U.S. soil which automatically makes him an NBC
Even if that is indeed the case, NO.

USCIS currently clarifies the following federal statute ...
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Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress Assembled, That hereafter a woman, being a native-born citizen. who is believed to have lost her United States citizenship solely by reason of her marriage prior to September 22, 1922, to an alien, and whose marital status with such alien has or shall have terminated or who has resided continuously in the United States since the date of such marriage, shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922.
U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Laws, Specifically, page 173

...by currently stating the restored U.S. citizenship of such persons as thus:
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The words "shall be deemed to be a citizen of the United States to the same extent as though her marriage to said alien had taken place on or after September 22, 1922", as they appeared in the 1936 and 1940 statutes, are prospective and restore the status of native-born or natural-born citizen (whichever existed prior to the loss) as of the date citizenship was reacquired.
Interpretation 324.2 Reacquisition of citizenship lost by marriage.

Native-born citizen is currently broken down into two different sub-classifications by USCIS: native-born citizen OR natural-born citizen. Not all native-born citizens are natural-born citizens. Current fact.
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:16 AM
 
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I'm sure an internet search brings it up for you.
it's your claim, please support it.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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It first surfaced in the primaries by a Clinton insider. Not after Obama had won the primaries.
This is completely untrue. Not only was it invented early on the morning of March 1, 2008 on the right-wing conservative forum Free Republic, there has never been a single "Clinton insider" involved with the spread of the story. No Clinton acquaintance, friend, or anybody who worked for her campaign, not even the lowest level staffer has ever been placed within a light year of birther claims.
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