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Old 08-17-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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A couple weeks ago, Andrew Sullivan wrote a series of posts on social mobility in the U.S. by region, focusing on the lack thereof in the South according to a map from the New York Times. The nation’s most upwardly mobile city, according to that map, is Salt Lake City, Utah, and the Times’ written accompaniment compares it to Denmark and Norway in the social-mobility metric of likelihood that a child raised in the bottom 20% of income to the top 20% by adulthood. That probably surprised some folks: plenty of people forget that Utah even exists, and when they do think of it they think of skiing (aka rich people) and Mormons (aka conservative people). What’s that about social mobility?

As it turns out, it’s not the only surprising statistic about Utah, arguably the most conservative state in the country and basically the opposite of Denmark and Norway when it comes to social spending and other government policies ordinarily associated with mobility and low rates of poverty. For example, it is the fastest growing state in the country by some metrics. The Census Bureau ranked it fourth in this category in 2012, having dropped from first during the Great Recession. Study after study ranks it at or near the top in various categories of well-being, including access to clean water and employment satisfaction; some such surveys have Utah leaving runners-up in the dust. It recently had the lowest rate of child poverty and the fourth-highest child well-being, though it slipped in those categories as well due to the economy (while other states intervened when child well-being was at risk during the recession, Utah coasted).

Yet it posted leading numbers in earlier years despite having the second-lowest benefits for children through the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program, low Medicaid eligibility, and lowest-in-the-nation education spending (among other states who score highly in well-being rankings, these are extremely unusual characteristics; the study that ranked Utah highly also reported the overall conclusion that “child well-being is strongly related to higher state taxes and robust entitlement programs”). Teen pregnancy, out-of-wedlock births, abortions per capita: 47th, 50th, and 50th. Utahns, living up to their state motto, Industry, are the most productive workers. Forbes called it the best state for business, and the Pew Center on the States ranked it the best-governed.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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It is the lack of good booze.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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All their women "Keep Sweet"
 
Old 08-17-2013, 11:50 AM
 
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Started with nothing not too long ago. Utah was a backwater state until not too long ago. The only reason why "liberal" states have high unemployment and lots of poor people is not because of Democrats, but because the "liberal" states are where most of US industry was based until it was offshored to China, Mexico, and communist Canada. By the way, how did communist Canada manage to attract more industry to its high tax, high regulation country over conservative utopia Utah?
 
Old 08-17-2013, 11:57 AM
 
Location: texas
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Congratulations Utah on all your success. Continued good fortune. I'm sure you're a fine little state.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Started with nothing not too long ago. Utah was a backwater state until not too long ago. The only reason why "liberal" states have high unemployment and lots of poor people is not because of Democrats, but because the "liberal" states are where most of US industry was based until it was offshored to China, Mexico, and communist Canada. By the way, how did communist Canada manage to attract more industry to its high tax, high regulation country over conservative utopia Utah?
Interesting but I don't think even Dems could mess up Utah. Well assuming they leave the social crap alone. I wasn't getting at economics or even race but something that transcends these things.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It is the lack of good booze.
Naw - Harrier spent 2 hrs in Utah, and the only think he did was drink two pints of Wasatch Pale Ale.

There was a selection of hard liquor as well, but Harrier likes his brew.

Harrier kicked himself for not ordering the Polygamy Porter.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Naw - Harrier spent 2 hrs in Utah, and the only think he did was drink two pints of Wasatch Pale Ale.

He had his selection of hard liquor as well, but Harrier likes his brew.

Harrier kicked himself for not ordering the Polygamy Porter.
So you enjoy weak, overpriced beer. I prefer my beer and liquor to have a higher alcohol content.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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They do well, because the Church of Latter-Day Saints tells them to do well.
 
Old 08-17-2013, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So you enjoy weak, overpriced beer. I prefer my beer and liquor to have a higher alcohol content.
Well, the idea is to follow the advice of the tagline of the label on a bottle of Polygamy Porter - "Why have just one?"
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