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It's been covered. They are allowed to still be a church. If someone would like a Bible, they can give them one. If someone requests counseling, they may provide it.
What they can not do is force people to do this to receive the food and there is no indications that was done.
If you have more information here, please post it.
This organization is not a church - never has been.
This organization is not a church - never has been.
I'm not sure who made you the arbitrator of what is a church and what isn't but this is a typical reply from someone with no other logical response but feel like they have to say something anyway.
I'm not sure who made you the arbitrator of what is a church and what isn't but this is a typical reply from someone with no other logical response but feel like they have to say something anyway.
I read the article and did a Google search. This group (The Christian Service Center) is identified as a social service organization, not a church. If you can find any info that verifies that it is, indeed, a church, then I will stand corrected.
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Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc legal structure is a corporation. This nonprofit is classified as a 170(b)(1)(a)(vi) organization, which indicates it receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public. Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc is a government Instrumentality. This organization benefits human services - multipurpose and other, focusing specifically on emergency assistance (food, clothing, cash) programs.
With $784,331 in assets as of year-end 2011, Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc is slightly larger than average. The 2011 reported income for Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc was $419,711, which puts it slightly above average. Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc Nonprofit Lake City, Florida | Form 990, Details
I read the article and did a Google search. This group (The Christian Service Center) is identified as a social service organization, not a church. If you can find any info that verifies that it is, indeed, a church, then I will stand corrected.
Is this logical enough for you??
Church
a building used for public Christian worship.
Even at that the argument is meaningless. Call it what you want they can do what they have been doing according to the known facts.
A church, a Christian Service Center, all the same, they can give people Bible's and put up religious pictures.
Even at that the argument is meaningless. Call it what you want they can do what they have been doing according to the known facts.
A church, a Christian Service Center, all the same, they can give people Bible's and put up religious pictures.
Good try, but not good enough. I am reposting the incorporation details of The Christian Service Center for convenience:
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Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc legal structure is a corporation. This nonprofit is classified as a 170(b)(1)(a)(vi) organization, which indicates it receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public. Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc is a government Instrumentality. This organization benefits human services - multipurpose and other, focusing specifically on emergency assistance (food, clothing, cash) programs.
With $784,331 in assets as of year-end 2011, Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc is slightly larger than average. The 2011 reported income for Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc was $419,711, which puts it slightly above average. Christian Service Center of Columbia County Inc Nonprofit Lake City, Florida | Form 990, Details
This group incorporated as a 'government instrumentality' which means it is
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an organization that serves a public purpose and is closely tied to federal and/or state government, but is not a government agency. Many instrumentalities are private companies, and some are chartered directly by state or federal government. Instrumentalities are subject to a unique set of laws that shape their activities.Instrumentality Definition | Investopedia
Officially and legally The Christian Service Center is not "the same as a church" and is not covered by edicts/laws designed for churches.
Good try, but not good enough. I am reposting the incorporation details of The Christian Service Center for convenience:This group incorporated as a 'government instrumentality' which means it is Officially and legally The Christian Service Center is not "the same as a church" and is not covered by edicts/laws designed for churches.
According to the statement released by the USDA they are. It's the statement by the employee that showed up that is counter to that.
How do you get from this statement:
The USDA referred to an Executive Order providing equal protection for faith-based organizations. That order guarantees those groups the right to provide assistance without “removing or altering religious art, icons, scriptures or other symbols from these facilities.”
According to the statement released by the USDA they are. It's the statement by the employee that showed up that is counter to that.
How do you get from this statement:
The USDA referred to an Executive Order providing equal protection for faith-based organizations. That order guarantees those groups the right to provide assistance without “removing or altering religious art, icons, scriptures or other symbols from these facilities.”
That they must remove religious art?
I'm not sure. It doesn't say church, it says "faith-based organization" so all this arguement about whether it is actually a church is immaterial.
According to the statement released by the USDA they are. It's the statement by the employee that showed up that is counter to that.
How do you get from this statement:
The USDA referred to an Executive Order providing equal protection for faith-based organizations. That order guarantees those groups the right to provide assistance without “removing or altering religious art, icons, scriptures or other symbols from these facilities.”
That they must remove religious art?
All info in the OP link was given to Todd Starnes, who in turn incorporated it into his blog post. I have no explanation for his sometimes contradictory commentary.
I'm not sure. It doesn't say church, it says "faith-based organization" so all this arguement about whether it is actually a church is immaterial.
Maybe - it all depends on whether or not faith based organization can incorporate as a government instrumentality. Maybe this group incorporated incorrectly.
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