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Not the point of the thread. All was well for 31 years and now some clown shows up changing the rules and people could starve because the government employee doesn't like the fact that a christian organization is doling out the free food to people. Sounds like you would rather see it sit in a warehouse like the African dictators do with the donated aid we send em. Do you folks care "for the children and poor" or not? You always bray it but you seem to hate God more and would rather see folks starve. Or maybe you just think community organizers should be in charge?? Like...........well you know who....................
That is the point of the thread. And I prefer that the church, like all religious institutions, follow the rules.
All was well for 31 years and now some clown shows up changing the rules
They didn't change the rules. They came to enforce the agreed upon rules that were being broken (and I'd assumed they came because they were alerted to the violation).
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and people could starve because the government employee doesn't like the fact that a christian organization is doling out the free food to people.
Where are you getting this from?* The rules very much allow for, and specifically accommodate, christian (and other religious) organizations administering government programs that doll out free food to people.
*I imagine you're getting it from the horrendously biased and misleading opinion piece in the OP
They aren't taking government money. They are dispersing food.
Government funding is government money.
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“This program is a USDA-funded program and the requirements were outlined by the USDA,” spokesperson Amanda Bevis said. “This agency administers the program on the state level. Our staff did provide a briefing to CSC following turnover in leadership at CSC and did review the USDA requirements.”
It's been covered. They are allowed to still be a church. If someone would like a Bible, they can give them one. If someone requests counseling, they may provide it.
What they can not do is force people to do this to receive the food and there is no indications that was done.
If you have more information here, please post it.
Oh come on - you know you have more infromation, so why don't you provide it? I've quoted the exact rule to you more than once in this thread, and we've discussed it. Why are you choosing to misrepresent it by leaving half out?
Oh come on - you know you have more infromation, so why don't you provide it? I've quoted the exact rule to you more than once in this thread, and we've discussed it. Why are you choosing to misrepresent it by leaving half out?
I have no clue what you are ranting about. Nobody has argued against the idea that a group can't force anything on the participants. I noted that very early on.
Where we disagree is with your assumption that happened here devoid of any facts.
I guess the old "for the children" is put on the back burner............
"For the past 31 years, the Christian ministry has been providing food to the hungry in Lake City, Fla. without any problems. But all that changed when they said a state government worker showed up to negotiate a new contract. “The (person) told us there was a slight change in the contract,” Daly told me. “They said we could no longer have religious information where the USDA food is being distributed. They told us we had to take that stuff down.”
Daly said it’s no secret that the Christian Service Center is a Christian ministry.
“We’ve got pictures of Christ on more than one wall,” she said. “It’s very clear we are not social services. We are a Christian ministry.”
Daly and her staff sat in stunned disbelief as the government agents also informed them that the Christian Service Center could no longer pray or provide Bibles to those in need. The government contract also forbade any references to the ministry’s chapel.
“We asked if we had to change the name of the organization but that said we could leave that,” Daly said. “But we had to take our religious stuff down.”
Isn't that nice the government didn't make em change their name.
Basically they would have no problem if other locations handed out political info. They might find tho that the Federal government takes a differ view on use of religious institutions to hand out USDA food. We saw that in the hurricanes in which churches facilities where used by FEMA and their personnel used to cook and service food provided by FEMA. Perfectly legal .The use of religious facilities and members is not against federal law on separation of church and state. The state official is likely just talking without authority to handle the matter by federal guidelines.USDA is not a state agency afterall.
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