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Old 09-20-2013, 01:33 AM
 
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Even if there was a fire on every floor, which there wasn't, nor were the fires spread throughout the building, that still doesn't explain how the building collapsed straight down into it's own footprint at freefall speed. Did the fire somehow destroy every supporting element of the building? Oh, prior to 9/11, had any building collapsed like that due to fire? No. Why? Because it's impossible and defies the laws of physics. But, as we all know, the law of physics were suspended on 9/11.

I find it amusing that there are still people out there, after 12 years, who still actually buy into the official story. It truly perplexes me how people can ignore such obvious holes in the 9/11 commission's report. It saddens me that people don't search for their own answers and simply rely on their government to tell them what's true and what's not.


9/11: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube

 
Old 09-20-2013, 01:48 AM
 
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Even if there was a fire on every floor, which there wasn't, nor were the fires spread throughout the building, that still doesn't explain how the building collapsed straight down into it's own footprint at freefall speed.
do you honestly think that repeating this lie over and over again will make it true.

Once again you demonstrate that you don't know what Freefall is (its not a speed, its to describe acceleration and velocity) and you don't know what a building footprint is (hint: the wtc towers didn't not fall into their footprint, seeing as WTC 7, WTC 6, The Verizon Building, St. Nikolas Church, WTC 3, WTC 4, WTC 5, the Millenium Hotel, East River Savings Bank, 90 West Street, Bankers Trust building, One, Two, and Three World financial buildings, were damaged or destroyed.


When are you going to educate yourself? Oh, of course you won't. you rather parot the lies of 911 truth.

And as for straight down, of course they would. Are you one that subscribes to the claim by 911 Nutter, Judy wood, who thinks that the buildings should have toppled over like trees like the Keebler Elves had chopped down a tree?

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - Towers Collapse

And you demonstrate once again that you don't even know how the buildings were constructed, seeing as an entire floor of the WTC was equal in square footage space to that of a football field.

7-10 floors in each building, were completely engulfed in flames.

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Did the fire somehow destroy every supporting element of the building?
It didn't need to, and if you had read the NIST report, you would know this.

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Oh, prior to 9/11, had any building collapsed like that due to fire? No. Why? Because it's impossible and defies the laws of physics. But, as we all know, the law of physics were suspended on 9/11.
question: yes
your answer: is 100% false and the rest of yoru claim shows your ignorance on structural designs and HISTORY

Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition - First Time In History

Windsor Tower - the Steel portions of the building collapsed .
McCormick Center
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The McCormick Center in Chicago and the Sight and Sound Theater in Pennsylvania are examples of steel structures collapsing. The theater was fire protected using drywall and spray on material. A high rise in Philly didn't collapse after a long fire but firefighters evacuated the building when a pancake structural collapse was considered likely. Other steel-framed buildings partially collapsed due fires one after only 20 minutes.

The steel framed McCormick Center was at the time the World's largest exhibition center. It like the WTC used long steel trusses to create a large open space without columns. Those trusses were unprotected but of course much of the WTC lost it's fire protection due to the impacts.

"As an example of the damaging effect of fire on steel, in 1967, the original heavy steel-constructed McCormick Place exhibition hall in Chicago collapsed only 30 minutes after the start of a small electrical fire."

http://www.wconline.com/CDA/Archive/
24ae78779d768010VgnVCM100000f932a8c0____

"The unprotected steel roof trusses failed early on in the fire"

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The McCormick Place fire "is significant because it illustrates the fact that steel-frame buildings can collapse as a result of exposure to fire. This is true for all types of construction materials, not only steel." wrote Robert Berhinig, associate manager of UL's Fire Protection Division and a registered professional engineer. He also discusses UL's steel fire certification much more knowledgably than Kevin Ryan. He is an example of one more highly qualified engineer who supports the collapse theory.

http://www.iaei.org/subscriber/magaz...d/berhinig.htm
Sight and Sound Theater
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On the morning of January 28, 1997, in the Lancaster County, Pennsylvania township of Strasburg, a fire caused the collapse of the state-of-the-art, seven year old Sight and Sound Theater and resulted in structural damage to most of the connecting buildings.
The theater was a total loss, valued at over $15 million.


http:www.interfire.org/res_file/pdf/Tr-097.pdf
One Meridian Plaza
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"All interior firefighting efforts were halted after almost 11 hours of uninterrupted fire in the building. Consultation with a structural engineer and structural damage observed by units operating in the building led to the belief that there was a
possibility of a pancake structural collapse of the fire damaged
floors."

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/t...ons/tr-049.txt
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NYFD was concerned that a steel framed building that partially collapsed during after a gas explosion might collapse entirely due to the resulting fire.

http://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/p...ons/TR-068.pdf

I find it amusing that after 12 years, truthers still believe in these lies.
 
Old 09-20-2013, 01:52 AM
 
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Corbin, before you post again, showing that you can't think for yourself, take the time (i know you won't) to read the NIST reports:

Final Reports from the NIST World Trade Center Disaster Investigation


It's written so that even a person with an 8th grade reading level can understand. Of course, it'll take you at least a week to do so. Its quite a good read.


Once you have done so, then come back with specific questions regarding these reports. Point to the sections that you have a problem with, and provide DETAILED explanations as to why you think NIST was wrong (aka why 400 engineers, scientists and architects are wrong)

Also, please provide your detail education history, and what expertise you have, that pertains to the collapse of the the towers on 9/11
 
Old 09-20-2013, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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That's according to over 2000 licensed architects and engineers. Yet, there has been no independent investigation of the collapses. Why?
Because the official investigation has been accepted?

[eh?]
 
Old 09-20-2013, 02:44 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So, these 2000+ architects and engineers who have examined NIST's official report didn't consider the evidence?

By the way, here's a page full of evidence. Take your time. Learn something and then get back to me: Evidence page
Typical of a Leftist. We are all uneducated. You are the only one with the "truth."
 
Old 09-20-2013, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Ok, everybody. Let me ask you this. Suppose someone showed you a video of those towers collapsing on 9/11 and you had no knowledge of planes striking the towers. Would you believe it if someone told you they were brought down by controlled demolition? Does it look like controlled demolition to you? Answer honestly, please. If you ever seen a controlled demolition on tv or elsewhere, do they look the same as the twin towers collapsing?

Okay, Corbin Dallas. Let me ask you this: have you ever seen the precision that goes into taking down a structure 6 stories high to make it come down as planned?

Do you REALLY think you can throw jet liners into the mix and have any predictable outcome?


Do they look the same?

No. Not at all, really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SxwNW4yMs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8iO4TQsp9Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb4puln_No
 
Old 09-20-2013, 03:52 AM
 
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A new national poll reveals that 1 in 2 Americans have doubts about the official 9/11 story. And why not? It's not a crime to question the truth. It's not a crime to try to educate yourself about what really happened. One of the most glaring facts is that kerosene(jet fuel) can not burn hot enough to compromise the strength of structural steel. Also, there's sort of the obvious; 3 towers collapsed at freefall speed into their own footprint. Uh, ok. Because that's what happens when steel buildings catch on fire, right. No. That's not what happens and that's never happened in the history of steel buildings. Witnesses reported hearing successive explosions and then watched the towers collapse. Explosives brought the towers down, not planes. And no plane even struck WTC 7.
Are you implying the Bush government and the Republicans were all in on this heinous act? and if so what were their reasons for perpetrating such an act?
 
Old 09-20-2013, 04:27 AM
 
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1. Freefall. You know what freefall is right?
2. Yes they did. Watch video.
3. Yes they were. Watch the video.
4. Yes CD uses gravity, but they also need to destroy the lower supporting elements in order for the collapse to happen. This is what you see with the WTC. The lower supporting elements had to have been destroyed for those towers to collapse straight down.
5. There were many witnesses who claim to have heard consecutive, concussive blasts just before freefall of the towers.
6. Did you know that major media also caught police officers telling people to get back because WTC was going to blow? Watch the video.
7. What about the molten steel and thermite? People never want to answer those.
See what I mean with these newbies and 911?

After the first couple of posts when they see people laughing at them they become a broken record posting: ~ watch the video

their next post: ~ watch the video

their next post: ~ watch the video

their next post: ~ watch the video

their next post: ~ watch the video

their next post: ~ watch the video

This topic is so well, errr, ummm frigging boring. How many times do we have to put up with the same topic, the OP sprouting the same thing 30 OP's previously sprouted...

 
Old 09-20-2013, 04:35 AM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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Follow the money trail...no one bothered to do that because Saudi Arabian oil kings are friends with OUR oil elite. Instead off we went to Iraq - Afghanistan and avoided bothering the mischief makers who murdered over 3000 thousand people in one swoop...who ever put up the money for the adventure is the one you go after....no one has done that because money is the God of America and this god is more important than people.
 
Old 09-20-2013, 04:39 AM
 
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Follow the money trail...no one bothered to do that because Saudi Arabian oil kings are friends with OUR oil elite. Instead off we went to Iraq - Afghanistan and avoided bothering the mischief makers who murdered over 3000 thousand people in one swoop...who ever put up the money for the adventure is the one you go after....no one has done that because money is the God of America and this god is more important than people.
Your ludicrous post is debunked here:

9/11 conspiracy theories - RationalWiki
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