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Indeed, it does. Did you not look at the NAEP percentages? Exactly. Why can't ALL public schools have magnet classes for their better students? Look at what can be accomplished when good students are actually educated to the best of their abilities!
It is not the classes it is the students. Can't you get this straight? The magnet attracts a set of high achieving students who would otherwise not attend the school. You could offfer the courses without these students but no one would take them. The kids from the nieghborhood do badly even though high success is possible in the school. And that is the problem.
No, that's strictly opinion. There is nothing whatsoever in NCLB that stipulates that better students must be dumbed-down in order to meet struggling students' needs. Nothing. That's just the completely dysfunctional way public schools have chosen to implement it.
Nonsense - a fixed sum game. The money is split between nice things for the bright versus remedial things for those not able. NCLB forces the expenditures to the latter if acceptable progress is to be made.
And if you wish to improve the schools that is the right thing to do. Getting your brightest from 97% to 98% is not competitive with getting your bottom kids off zero.
Public schools have only brought the abandonment you speak of upon themselves by foolishly choosing educational methods that dumb students down instead of choosing methods that educate students to the best of their abilities.
That is not what happened at all.
The middle and upper-middle classes began abandoning the public schools en masse after Brown vs. Board of Education in 1954. It was a response to racial desegregation, which the majority of whites didn't want (and still don't want). That is why public schools today are even more racially segregated than in the 1960s.
Nonsense - a fixed sum game. The money is split between nice things for the bright versus remedial things for those not able.
Split? I sincerely doubt that. In 2007, only 0.026% of the federal K-12 education budget was spent on gifted and talented students. I doubt the spending level on our top students has changed very much since then. Archived: FY 2007 ED Budget Summary: Summary
More on the problems of our country's inadequate education of our top students, written by a woman who works with MIT to try to change that: Gifted Minds We Need to Nurture
Furthermore, our country's weak public school systems adequately educate significantly fewer students at the advanced level than do other OECD countries.
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"In the United States, only 7 percent of students reached the advanced level in eighth-grade math, while 48 percent of eighth graders in Singapore and 47 percent of eighth graders in South Korea reached the advanced level."
NCLB forces the expenditures to the latter if acceptable progress is to be made.
Throwing more and more money at our public school systems has failed to yield improved outcomes. What schools should be doing is reallocating their resources and personnel in a more effective manner, and using more effective instructional methods like narrowing the range of educational needs in each class so that instruction can be much more targeted to meet students' needs.
The middle and upper-middle classes began abandoning the public schools en masse after Brown vs. Board of Education in 1954. It was a response to racial desegregation, which the majority of whites didn't want (and still don't want).
That does not explain families of the same race, regardless of which, fleeing their own racially segregated public schools, even in the suburbs. The sorry state of affairs is that in the U.S., public education is a joke. A world-wide joke. High school in America: A complete disaster.
Split? I sincerely doubt that. In 2007, only 0.026% of the federal K-12 education budget was spent on gifted and talented students. I doubt the spending level on our top students has changed very much since then. Archived: FY 2007 ED Budget Summary: Summary
K-12 funding is primarily a state and local function. Feds are pretty much irrelevant
And just to get rid of your main thesis education costs in most states are down not up...
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More on the problems of our country's inadequate education of our top students, written by a woman who works with MIT to try to change that: Gifted Minds We Need to Nurture
Throwing more and more money at our public school systems has failed to yield improved outcomes. What schools should be doing is reallocating their resources and personnel in a more effective manner, and using more effective instructional methods like narrowing the range of educational needs in each class so that instruction can be much more targeted to meet students' needs.
And in recent years it may be partially caused by the fact we are throwing less money at the problem.
As long as a single penny of taxpayer money gets spent on religious schools I will be against vouchers. Tax money should never be spent to support a private religion. Period. End of discussion.
That does not explain families of the same race, regardless of which, fleeing their own racially segregated public schools, even in the suburbs. The sorry state of affairs is that in the U.S., public education is a joke. A world-wide joke. High school in America: A complete disaster.
Do you ever read what you cite?
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It’s not just No Child Left Behind or Race to the Top that has failed our adolescents—it’s every single thing we have tried. The list of unsuccessful experiments is long and dispiriting. Charter high schools don’t perform any better than standard public high schools, at least with respect to student achievement. Students whose teachers “teach for America” don’t achieve any more than those whose teachers came out of conventional teacher certification programs. Once one accounts for differences in the family backgrounds of students who attend public and private high schools, there is no advantage to going to private school, either. Vouchers make no difference in student outcomes. No wonder school administrators and teachers from Atlanta to Chicago to my hometown of Philadelphia have been caught fudging data on student performance. It’s the only education strategy that consistently gets results.
Do note, the 8% federal funds includes monies spent on the school lunch program. Someone once posted a link on the ed forum where you could check by school district. My district was quite low. Anyone who wants to do a search can find this link.
Sure they do. Same number of classes, configured differently.
It depends how many good students and bad students you have. To do one good student class, you need at least one more class and you could need two bad student classes, depending on your mix between two classes alone if you don't just shove them in to make them equal. In 11th grade there was a US History course that switched off with my English class at the end first semester. My English course had like 12 kids in it, the other had 30. The students were EQUALS yet I was somehow in a class, 1/3rd of the size. Both had the same teachers but one had English the first semester while others had US History. A normal person would say "Hey dumb***, why don't you put 10 students from the class of 30 into the class of 12." The English teacher even complained about it towards January of that year when the switch was weeks away.
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