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It is the first significant move in more than a generation toward making healthcare affordable for more Americans who otherwise could not afford healthcare. It achieves this by converting human costs, which previously could be scurrilously ignored by those who adhere to antisocial, self-serving ideologies, into financial costs, so that we Americans can better understand the true state of health in our nation. With the human costs now converted into a metric that no honest and reasonable person can ignore, the structural injustice of the prior system is exposed, and it provides us a means by which we can measure our progress toward a more just healthcare system. There were more direct routes to a superior level of justice, but after more than a generation, it should be obvious to anyone who has a shred of integrity that there is enough egoistic avarice governing our society to preclude a comprehensive "one fell swoop" approach. And so that leaves the incremental approach to remedying the injustice, with ACA being a great first step.
It is the first significant move in more than a generation toward making healthcare affordable for more Americans who otherwise could not afford healthcare. It achieves this by converting human costs, which previously could be scurrilously ignored by those who adhere to antisocial, self-serving ideologies, into financial costs, so that we Americans can better understand the true state of health in our nation. With the human costs now converted into a metric that no honest and reasonable person can ignore, the structural injustice of the prior system is exposed, and it provides us a means by which we can measure our progress toward a more just healthcare system. There were more direct routes to a superior level of justice, but after more than a generation, it should be obvious to anyone who has a shred of integrity that there is enough egoistic avarice governing our society to preclude a comprehensive "one fell swoop" approach. And so that leaves the incremental approach to remedying the injustice, with ACA being a great first step.
Why do you think it's okay for the Government to force people to have healthcare? Do you think that's the Governments role? Why do you think it's okay to lower healthcare cost by forcing healthy people to pay for the healthcare of the sick?
Why do you think it's okay for the Government to force people to have healthcare? Do you think that's the Governments role? Why do you think it's okay to lower healthcare cost by forcing healthy people to pay for the healthcare of the sick?
Because that's the exact role of insurance, so people who don't need the help pay for those who do need the help. That is exactly what car insurance does, you pay your money to the insurance company and hope you never get into an accident ever in your life, and the insurance company keeps your money to pay to others who do get into accidents ... and if you do get into an accident that's your fault despite your best efforts, other people who haven't been in accidents are paying for your benefits. That is exactly how car insurance works, it pools risks and say it's a pool of 100 people, say 2 people are going to get in car accidents, well, then, 98 people are paying the benefits to those 2 people. Same with health insurance. So yes, it's okay to lower healthcare costs by forcing healthy people to pay for the health care of the sick just the way it's okay and accepted to lower car insurance costs by forcing good drivers to pay for the accidents of the good unfortunate drivers.
And yes, it's absolutely okay and in fact should be a mandatory role of the government to provide healthcare for its citizens. Do you donidanko think you should have healthcare when you get sick? I pay health insurance and I've never been hospitalized. I've paid far more in insurance premiums than I've received in care. Yet in a civilized society when you donidanko get sick and need hospitalization, I have no problem that some of my money that went to health insurance is going to you for your hospital bills because there are people in this world who are happy to have a little bit of their money to help you in your time of need.
It is the first significant move in more than a generation toward making healthcare affordable for more Americans who otherwise could not afford healthcare. It achieves this by converting human costs, which previously could be scurrilously ignored by those who adhere to antisocial, self-serving ideologies, into financial costs, so that we Americans can better understand the true state of health in our nation. With the human costs now converted into a metric that no honest and reasonable person can ignore, the structural injustice of the prior system is exposed, and it provides us a means by which we can measure our progress toward a more just healthcare system. There were more direct routes to a superior level of justice, but after more than a generation, it should be obvious to anyone who has a shred of integrity that there is enough egoistic avarice governing our society to preclude a comprehensive "one fell swoop" approach. And so that leaves the incremental approach to remedying the injustice, with ACA being a great first step.
30 million americans will go without..
countless americans cant find full time work
Millions more are losing their job
Its expected to add TRILLIONS to the national debt
Does absolutely nothing to control costs...
Doesnt even change that previous system, you just bitched about.
Why do you think it's okay for the Government to force people to have healthcare? Do you think that's the Governments role? Why do you think it's okay to lower healthcare cost by forcing healthy people to pay for the healthcare of the sick?
I don't support it at all. The hospital I work at has not made a deal with Anthem which is the only provider through the exchange in NH. We provide over 30 million dollars in charitable care for those who cannot afford it. What happens now? Do we tell people to see providers in other hospitals? Do we kick them off financial aid? They can't afford insurance in the first place nor do they qualify for Medicaid. Then what?
We will not be able to accept patients who have purchased Anthem through the exchange. They can come to the ER and ED and that's about it. Unless they want to see a specialist and pay out of pocket. So those people won't be able to keep their doctors unless they pay up.
Anthem offered a ridiculously low reimbursement rate. Lower than Medicare. While their regular plans have a very high reimbursement rate compared to Medicare.
So no. I don't support it. We were informed that our premiums are going up as of January 1st. After 3 years of no increases.
Because that's the exact role of insurance, so people who don't need the help pay for those who do need the help. That is exactly what car insurance does, you pay your money to the insurance company and hope you never get into an accident ever in your life, and the insurance company keeps your money to pay to others who do get into accidents ... and if you do get into an accident that's your fault despite your best efforts, other people who haven't been in accidents are paying for your benefits. That is exactly how car insurance works, it pools risks and say it's a pool of 100 people, say 2 people are going to get in car accidents, well, then, 98 people are paying the benefits to those 2 people. Same with health insurance. So yes, it's okay to lower healthcare costs by forcing healthy people to pay for the health care of the sick just the way it's okay and accepted to lower car insurance costs by forcing good drivers to pay for the accidents of the good unfortunate drivers.
And yes, it's absolutely okay and in fact should be a mandatory role of the government to provide healthcare for its citizens. Do you donidanko think you should have healthcare when you get sick? I pay health insurance and I've never been hospitalized. I've paid far more in insurance premiums than I've received in care. Yet in a civilized society when you donidanko get sick and need hospitalization, I have no problem that some of my money that went to health insurance is going to you for your hospital bills because there are people in this world who are happy to have a little bit of their money to help you in your time of need.
One, the only thing that's mandatory about car insurance is Liability insurance. Liability is only mandatory because it's protection for innocent victims. We are not "forced" to have Comprehensive, Collision, Uninsured Motorist, Emergency Road Service, etc insurance, so your analogy does not apply here at all. Two, car insurance is optional. If you do not want to pay for car insurance, then you do not have to own a car. Three, if you chose to have car insurance, you do not have to pay as much as someone who's more of a financial risk to the insurance company. Good drivers pay less, and bad drivers pay more. With Obamacare, people with good health are forced to pay for those with bad health.
No, donidanko does not think he should have healthcare if he's sick if donidanko chose not to buy health insurance. Just like people who choose to drive a car without car insurance should not and do not get help from insurance companies.
It's not my job to pay for everyone else's bills in this country. If you're fine with paying for someone else's hospital bills, then that's your choice, but it should not be forced on those that do not want to.
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