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Because illegals are taking up all the low paying jobs that no one else wants? You do realize people tried this back in the day and pitted the Irish against the African Americans and created some ugly race riots over it, but it turned out that it didn't take away jobs from the Irish and the Irish later went on to hold some very powerful positions in business and politics.
So you're saying no legal American citizens would be willing to do construction? No citizens would be willing to work in a factory or warehouse? American's aren't willing to pour cement, remodel houses, work on cars, etc? All with today's high unemployment rates?
Who are you trying to fool?
And most of those "lowing paying jobs" are low paying DUE TO THE ILLEGALS, and their willingness to work for nothing. What sort of fairy tale fable are you trying to portray here? Next you're going to tell us they are doing America a great service for dragging down the payscales and collecting Obama benefits
The fence thing is definitely not happening. The government is going to give amnesty to the immigrants. It happened in the Reagan days, and it's going to happen now. In the end, the United States needs immigrants, the white population isn't having babies and is aging and will soon be actually losing numbers.
California has a 440 billion deficit, and its economy is roughly 2 trillion dollars. Canada's economy is roughly 1.5 trillion, their debt , 1.2 trillion. Canada has a smaller population than Canada. Just fear mongering about illegal immigration really, that is, if you look at the facts.
"There are many ways to debate immigration, but when it comes to economics, there isn’t much of a debate at all. Nearly all economists, of all political persuasions, agree that immigrants — those here legally or not — benefit the overall economy. “That is not controversial,” Heidi Shierholz, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute, told me. Shierholz also said that “there is a consensus that, on average, the incomes of families in this country are increased by a small, but clearly positive amount, because of immigration.”"
"The benefit multiplies over the long haul. As the baby boomers retire, the post-boom generation’s burden to finance their retirement is greatly alleviated by undocumented immigrants. Stephen Goss, chief actuary for the Social Security Administration, told me that undocumented workers contribute about $15 billion a year to Social Security through payroll taxes. They only take out $1 billion (very few undocumented workers are eligible to receive benefits). Over the years, undocumented workers have contributed up to $300 billion, or nearly 10 percent, of the $2.7 trillion Social Security Trust Fund"
"The problem, though, is that undocumented workers are not evenly distributed. In areas like southern Texas and Arizona and even parts of Brooklyn, undocumented immigrants impose a substantial net cost to local and state governments, Shierholz says. Immigrants use public assistance, medical care and schools. Some immigrant neighborhoods have particularly high crime rates. Jared Bernstein, a fellow at the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, told me that these are also areas in which low-educated workers are most likely to face stiff competition from immigrants. It’s no wonder why so much political furor comes from these regions."
What has he compromised on health care and the stimulus? does that alter the fact they are not/did not work?
All through the health care debate he watered down his original proposal to get GOP buy in. The final plan ended up being the same as the GOP plan from the 1990s and they still voted no. Obama converted 40% of the stimulus to tax cuts at the insistence of Republicans and they still all voted no.
The results of the stimulus according to economists said the stimulus did work. Only ideological morons who aren't persuaded by facts think it didn't work.
Ok if you want to play games, play them, have fun, enjoy them and have some coloring books and crayons, the adults will solve the issue..
Yes, lets let the adults solve the issues because your silly fence is nothing more than fantasy because you have no idea how much this fence would even cost.
All through the health care debate he watered down his original proposal to get GOP buy in. The final plan ended up being the same as the GOP plan from the 1990s and they still voted no. Obama converted 40% of the stimulus to tax cuts at the insistence of Republicans and they still all voted no.
Special tax breaks for those who do what they're told by the government is not what I call a "tax cut". It would have been more productive to simplify the tax code and bring down the rates. Also, if they were going to spend $787 billion they should have spent it on infrastructure, since the highway system, sewer system, and electrical grid are all falling apart and need upgrades regardless. About as much was spent on COBRA as was spent on highways and bridges, which is just pathetic.
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The results of the stimulus according to economists said the stimulus did work. Only ideological morons who aren't persuaded by facts think it didn't work.
The average American family has lost more income during the recovery the Stimulus supposedly stimulated as they did during the recession, which is not a record I'd be proud of. You may not be of the same persuasion as these people, but a host of respected economists and researchers believe the Stimulus didn't work. Also, if you're looking for "ideological morons", Paul Krugman would be a good candidate, what with his calling for preparing for an alien invasion to save the economy, apparently working under the deluded view that the more we spend the better off we'll be.
So you're saying no legal American citizens would be willing to do construction? No citizens would be willing to work in a factory or warehouse? American's aren't willing to pour cement, remodel houses, work on cars, etc? All with today's high unemployment rates?
Who are you trying to fool?
And most of those "lowing paying jobs" are low paying DUE TO THE ILLEGALS, and their willingness to work for nothing. What sort of fairy tale fable are you trying to portray here? Next you're going to tell us they are doing America a great service for dragging down the payscales and collecting Obama benefits
No, they are due to employers getting away with hiring illegals. If you want to end illegals working this this country, you go after the ones with money, the employers.
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