A mass political movement for parasitism (military, rating, leader, state government)

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Robert_J

I helped my father in two businesses from the time I was in 8th grade until graduating college. My wife runs her own business as well as part owner in 3 corporations with her sisters. My brother-in-law runs his own business as well as being a CPA. I have a little more experience outside of a textbook.

It can't be just Wal-Mart. Once corp taxes are eliminated, that will allow Target to drop prices below Wal-Mart. Kroger will drop prices as well. Producers will also see an advantage and pass along the savings. Samsung will be able to undercut Vizio's prices on flat TVs.

They are one of many problems. That's just the topic of this thread.

But it doesn't work that way, no matter how many times you say it. They only drop prices to undercut their competition. If their competition puts all the additional revenue into profits for their shareholders, then Target and Kroger will do the same thing. There is no incentive to cut prices to consumers. That's where you are living in a fantasy world but keep parroting the same textbook clichés. When you are talking about businesses of this size, your textbook corner banana stand mantra often don't apply.

I'm very impressed with your business experience. I've been working in private industry in finance for over 15 years....so what the heck does any of that have to do with huge corporations and taxes?

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Robert_J

The .gov IS distributing it how it wants. Is it legal? No. Where does it get the power to run a welfare state? The enumerated powers are listed below.

Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution - Transcript of the Constitution of the United States - Official Text

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; \

There's this general welfare thing.

It also doesn't say anything about finanancing rocket ships to fly into space and about a billion other things that a bunch of 18 century dudes couldn't forsee.

[k.smith904]

Crazy how all these nations richer, smarter, healthier, and happier than us have way more "parasites"...

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by dman72

There's this general welfare thing.

General welfare of the United States, not of individuals. That's always where the mistake is made. It's a reading comprehension failure.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

So, your position is that 95% of U.S. tax filers are receiving government welfare. Got it.

All you have to do to back up your bold talk is quote my post where I wrote that. Otherwise, you're just making up nonsense, which is what the right's been doing for quite awhile now. Maybe you boys really do believe your own BS.

Just makes you look all the dumber, though.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

All you have to do to back up your bold talk is quote my post where I wrote that.

You said the article explained it. The article stated... "...when the government provides a narrow exemption from general tax obligations it essentially is writing a check" in the context that doing so was considered welfare.

[Robert_J]

Originally Posted by dman72

There's this general welfare thing.

It also doesn't say anything about finanancing rocket ships to fly into space and about a billion other things that a bunch of 18 century dudes couldn't forsee.

Then where were items like post roads listed? Without enumerated powers, what constraints are placed on the federal government? Right now there are none.

And you are correct, NASA as its own department is unconstitutional.

[Winter_Sucks]

There's a lot of GOP parasites who enjoy taking large sums of subsidies, yet also think food stamps are just a bridge too far. Pathetic parasites.

[dman72]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

General welfare of the United States, not of individuals. That's always where the mistake is made. It's a reading comprehension failure.

So the citizens of the United States, no, but the "United States" as some theoretical entity, that's what it means?


...and you're being serious?

[dman72]

Originally Posted by Robert_J

Then where were items like post roads listed? Without enumerated powers, what constraints are placed on the federal government? Right now there are none.

And you are correct, NASA as its own department is unconstitutional.

Those are what those "elected representatives" are for.

Just because you don't like how the constitution has been interpreted doesn't mean there is something inherently evil or illegal about that interpretation..you just don't like it.

You're free to continue voting in tea party nuts who want to blow up the whole system. Hopefully and most likely, cooler heads will prevail.