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Old 10-12-2013, 06:07 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Why the temper tantrum? Everyone KNOWS the majority of Americans are OPPOSED to Obamacare.

Why are Obama, Reid, and the Dems so hell-bent on forcing Americans into something that the majority doesn't want?
And Obamacare is something they don't want for themselves, either!

 
Old 10-12-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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"The shutdown and debt-limit standoff, by crushing consumer confidence and roiling markets, has brought home to business leaders the realization that they don’t have common cause with the tea party activists they’ve been supporting. My Post colleague Philip Rucker reported that Michigan businessman Brian Ellis is launching a Republican primary challenge to Rep. Justin Amash, a prominent tea party figure. Meantime, the New York Times reported last week about the possibility of “open warfare” between business and the tea party, noting that several trade associations are weighing the financing of primary campaigns against Republicans responsible for the shutdown."

Dana Milbank: Cruzification of the GOP - The Washington Post

The Tea Party has orchestrated their own demise. This is what happens when a group starts to believe their own hype. They have used the threat of primary challenges to cow their fellow Republicans into letting them get their way. Now it looks like maybe sanity is making a comeback in the party. I hope to see a wave of moderate Republicans with financial backing challenge every one of the Tea Partiers and clean House.
 
Old 10-12-2013, 07:07 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"The shutdown and debt-limit standoff...
One person's "opinion?" Meaningless.

Composite of major polls:

RCP Average 9/27 - 10/9 Against/Oppose +10.3
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law
 
Old 10-12-2013, 07:22 AM
 
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"It’s probably worth taking a step back to recognize just how irresponsible all of this is:
• The actual date for a debt-limit extension was weeks ago; Republicans totally ignored it, forcing Treasury to (once again) resort to “extraordinary measures.”

• Those measures are scheduled to run out on Oct. 17. That’s Thursday.

• In all that time, Republicans have not put anything on the House floor. Zilch. Nothing with crazy ransom demands. Nothing with compromised, smaller ransom demands. Nothing.

As irresponsible as Republicans have been on the funding bill, at least on that they did make a tiny effort. It wasn’t much; all they offered was a short-term continuing resolution packed with a clearly unreasonable price for Democrats to keep the government functioning. But at least they had an offer.

Republicans do seem to be getting ready to surrender (although they seem to have only reached the stage at which they’re asking for rewards for surrendering; it may take a while longer for them to fully understand the concept). A true economic disaster may yet be avoided. But everyone should remember just how irresponsible they’ve been on this one."

Depths of irresponsibility: GOP on the debt limit

Like little children, they must be taught that when you lose, you don't get to choose the terms of your surrender. They're slow learners, but eventually they'll get there. Not because they want to, but because they'll have no choice.
 
Old 10-12-2013, 07:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Republicans do seem to be getting ready to surrender...
Why should Republicans surrender the public's will?

Why are Obama, Reid, and the Democrats so hell-bent on shoving Obamacare down the public's throats when the majority of Americans OPPOSE it?

How do you not understand how tyrannical and dictatorial Obama and the Dems are being?
 
Old 10-12-2013, 07:52 AM
 
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"The kamikaze caucus, by seeking to block the president by any means necessary, is reflecting the back-to-the wall desperation evident among grassroots Republicans convinced that Obama and his urbanized, racially diverse supporters are transforming America into something unrecognizable. Although those voters are split over whether the current tactics will work, they are united in resisting any accommodation with Obama.

Veteran Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who has studied the two parties' coalitions since the 1980s, recently conducted several focus groups with GOP voters that probed this passion. He concluded that the roaring sense of embattlement among the almost all-white tea party and evangelical Christian voters central to the GOP base draws on intertwined ideological, electoral, and racial fears.

Greenberg's analysis echoes the findings of other scholars, such as Harvard sociologist Theda Skocpol, whose studies have concluded that the tea party's most ardent priority is reducing government transfer payments to those it considers undeserving. "

Will the Kamikaze Caucus Doom the GOP? - NationalJournal.com

And to the Tea Party, anyone who isn't a white evangelical Christian is undeserving. Old people afraid of change are what is holding up the country.

The writer also called Boehner a SINO--Speaker in Name Only. Bullseye!
 
Old 10-12-2013, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The leaderless House punts the shutdown and debt ceiling issues to the Senate, the only Legislative Branch that is still working.
 
Old 10-12-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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"The kamikaze caucus, by seeking to block the president by any means necessary...
No one is blocking Obama from doing the will of the people. The majority of Americans OPPOSE Obamacare.

If anything, Obama is blocking the will of the people.
 
Old 10-12-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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The leaderless House punts the shutdown and debt ceiling issues to the Senate, the only Legislative Branch that is still working.
It's funny how it will be the Senate Republicans, the minority in the upper chamber, who will have to lead their party. The House has descended into complete chaos and immobility under Tea Party rule. The fact that these are the imbeciles to whom we have entrusted the purse strings of the country should scare the hell out of everybody.
 
Old 10-12-2013, 08:07 AM
 
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What is funny is that the left continues with the same crap....over and over parroting what the MSM says.....yet they know deep inside, that if the senate and reid would pass a budget, we would not be here....

Eat crap lefties....!
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