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Old 10-15-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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'Referring to a recent incident in which an Oregon traffic stop led to a shootout in which the driver died, a police officer opined: “If sheep continue to disobey orders we will have much more of this.” He also referred wistfully to the days before “dash cams and YouTube”; the era before police encounters were recorded offered “easier times when it came to dealing with the sheep.”

The description of common citizens as “sheep” wasn’t meant to imply that police are benevolent shepherds. Lt. Col. David Grossman, a retired Army Ranger who provides combat instruction for police officers nation-wide describes “sheep” as people who lack what he calls the “gift of aggression” that sets police officers apart.

Such people sometimes engage in excesses – such as beating handcuffed suspects, body-slamming tiny women to pavement or sidewalks, or otherwise abusing smaller and defenseless people – but this isn’t abuse, according to Grossman; instead, it’s an outgrowth of their irrepressible “yearning for an honest battle.”


We May be "Sheep," but Cops Aren't Good Shepherds - informationliberation
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:25 PM
 
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The shepherds own the sheep. They have the power to do as they wish, especially when armed with guns.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:35 PM
 
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The shepherds own the sheep. They have the power to do as they wish, especially when armed with guns.
Yes, but send a few loud and clear messages and most of this nonsense will stop. I was watching "Gangs Of New York" the other day and one of my favorite scenes is when the crowd gathers to find the corrupt cop hanging in the town square at day break. Time to bring back old school justice for those who abuse their power.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:39 PM
 
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Yes, but send a few loud and clear messages and most of this nonsense will stop. I was watching "Gangs Of New York" the other day and one of my favorite scenes is when the crowd gathers to find the corrupt cop hanging in the town square at day break. Time to bring back old school justice for those who abuse their power.
Old school justice doesn't work in the age of a high tech, militarized police.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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Of course, the best solution is to get rid of the police. Without them the bad shepherds will be gone.
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:46 PM
 
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Of course, the best solution is to get rid of the police. Without them the bad shepherds will be gone.
Vote for mayors that supports getting rid of the police state. Police are, for the most part, local entities.
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:56 PM
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The shepherds own the sheep. They have the power to do as they wish, especially when armed with guns.
Not if the shepherds start to find the bodies of their families in shallow graves. There will be a time when people have had enough and decide to fight back.

You might not be able to take on a member of an organized criminal gang like the police directly, but there are tactics that can reduce the urge for anyone to work as a police officer or give the supposed good cops the nudge that it will take for them to clean out the scumbags in their midst themselves.

A few dead spouses and children is all it would take to make them notice.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:03 PM
 
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Vote for mayors that supports getting rid of the police state. Police are, for the most part, local entities.
This abuse of power is not confined to local LE. DHS and many other federal agencies are just as guilty. We just stand by and watch while LE increases it's power over us using the shield of "protecting the people" or "looking for terrorists". A good example is DUI roadblocks and border patrol roadblocks 100 miles from the border.

The only solution is to reduce the power and budget of these agencies via new legislation and court cases. But that will not happen since we have way too many people with their heads in the sand and they take the position that more LE is good for the people.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:05 PM
 
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Not if the shepherds start to find the bodies of their families in shallow graves. There will be a time when people have had enough and decide to fight back.
We are a long way from that happening. Most people don't even think there is a problem because it happens to the other guy.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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We are a long way from that happening. Most people don't even think there is a problem because it happens to the other guy.
Bingo! Apathy is the biggest ally of the growing police state. As long as it is someone else getting abused most of the sheep will simply spend their days chewing grass, gleefully ignoring their neighbors being dragged away in the night.
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