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The topic is those who don't pay Federal Income Taxes now outnumber those who do pay Federal Income Taxes.
Once that balance tips toward the non-payers .... we are done. That's pretty much basic Math.
Why would those who don't pay to support our system of Government (i.e. Federal Taxes) ever vote against their own interests? Their interest is to punish those that do pay Federal Taxes to support them. It basic ReDistribution of Wealth toward the recipient class. You either are part of the system or you suck from the system with a variety of "subsidy".
Which ones of that list get high salaries? Shouldn't most of them get good pay? Especially the ones risking their lives? And which ones specifically are you calling fleas if you think it is some and not all?
Come on......you know better than that.
Here's a story about police officers and their pay.
In 2008, the chief made $332,529.88. He wasn't the highest paid person on the force, though. That distinction belonged to one of his two captains, who made $335,676 while working two days a week due to a disability and spending the other three days a week in physical therapy. The other captain? He had to get by on $311,369.
The 50 highest-earning employees of this city were all members of the Police Department. Combined, these 50 earned $10 million, or an average of $200,000 each.
That's decent money for NYC, right? I mean, after all, these people are risking their lives.
Except.......they aren't risking their lives in NYC.
They are working the mean streets of Clarkstown, NY.
The compensation of the police department comprises 25% of the town's $130 million budget.
You can imagine that the "captain" -- that 2 day a week guy -- is going to have a massive pension. Because, after all, he's a union guy.
The problem is that these positions are TAXPAYER funded, not funded by the revenue generated by the police department. And taxpayers deserve a say when they get f**ked like this.
Don't even get me started about the hard working city employees of Bell, California.
The topic is those who don't pay Federal Income Taxes now outnumber those who do pay Federal Income Taxes.
Once that balance tips toward the non-payers .... we are done. That's pretty much basic Math.
Why would those who don't pay to support our system of Government (i.e. Federal Taxes) ever vote against their own interests? Their interest is to punish those that do pay Federal Taxes to support them. It basic ReDistribution of Wealth toward the recipient class. You either are part of the system or you suck from the system with a variety of "subsidy".
No one in this thread pays in with their taxes an amount exceeding the services they receive.
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Though it is popular to engage in partisan arguments, the issue is simple. When recipients can outvote the donors, no politician will dare to reform the government.
Almost 60 percent of all Americans (dependents included) get 100 percent of their income from government (federal, state and local): as workers, Social Security and SSI recipients, other pension beneficiaries and general assistance. The American State, as paymaster to so many people, has created a class of servants.
No matter which partisan political party you embrace, if you're part of the growing recipient class, your self interest will drive the nation to collapse.
When the fleas dominate the dog, the dog dies - - - then the fleas.
The topic is those who don't pay Federal Income Taxes now outnumber those who do pay Federal Income Taxes.
Once that balance tips toward the non-payers .... we are done. That's pretty much basic Math.
No, not quite.
The topic is that between government employees, welfare recipients, and those whose income is otherwise derived from taxpayers... 40% carry the 60%. it's actually worse, but we'll leave it at that for now.
Government PRODUCES NOTHING. Every government employee has to be paid, fed, clothed, given medicine, etc, by someone else producing it and paying for it.
Apparently, that's ok, because some of these people think that ALL of us should be provided for by the government. Not only do they have no idea where it will all come from, or who's going to work that hard for getting nothing in return, they claim a moral imperative is on their side.
When the government takes money from me to pay a soldier or cop or fireman, they have redistributed money from me to those government employees. The problem with right-wing dunces is that they have been taught that:
a. Redistribution is when money is taken from the "rich" to give to the poor.
b. Thus, redistribution is bad.
Here's a clue. So long as you have a government, money will necessarily be redistributed from some people to others. Money is redistributed to you in a number of ways, including from other taxpayers. When your kids go to public schools or go on to college, most of the costs are subsidized by other taxpayers. Every day, money is redistributed to you and away from you. To imagine a world where that does not happen in is to imagine the fantasyland in which so many of you want to live.
More of this "Makers vs Takers" tripe. Romney's flawed gift to the GOP. It lets them wrap themselves in smug, moral indignation whenever they lose. It gives them comfort like an alcoholic hitting the bottle after a painful bout of reality.
The topic is that between government employees, welfare recipients, and those whose income is otherwise derived from taxpayers... 40% carry the 60%. it's actually worse, but we'll leave it at that for now.
Government PRODUCES NOTHING. Every government employee has to be paid, fed, clothed, given medicine, etc, by someone else producing it and paying for it.
Apparently, that's ok, because some of these people think that ALL of us should be provided for by the government. Not only do they have no idea where it will all come from, or who's going to work that hard for getting nothing in return, they claim a moral imperative is on their side.
Government produces many things. Besides, many of our wealthiest individuals and their businesses produce "nothing" in the sense that you mean "nothing."
BTW, list for us some people who think the government should provide for us all and where they said that.
The topic is that between government employees, welfare recipients, and those whose income is otherwise derived from taxpayers... 40% carry the 60%. it's actually worse, but we'll leave it at that for now.
Government PRODUCES NOTHING. Every government employee has to be paid, fed, clothed, given medicine, etc, by someone else producing it and paying for it.
Apparently, that's ok, because some of these people think that ALL of us should be provided for by the government. Not only do they have no idea where it will all come from, or who's going to work that hard for getting nothing in return, they claim a moral imperative is on their side.
Remember that: GOVERNMENT PRODUCES NOTHING.
If you work for the government -- at any level, in any capacity -- your compensation is derived from the TAXPAYERS.
While you might think "hey, no big deal, we'll just keep raising taxes, as long as I get my annual raise and fat pension", there's only so much f**king the taxpayers can take.........before they die.
There are probably a minimum of a million government employees -- be they federal, state, local, fire, police, etc -- that are grossly overpaid. That money has to come from somewhere.
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