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Old 10-20-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Spoken like a true elder statesman, Jeb urges restraint on critiquing Obamacare. Jeb acknowledged that the GOP is better served just allowing the ACA to self-destruct. He is on the money on this one and I for one, hope he decides to run. Engaging in an ideological war with the government as the hostage is a joke, and a waste of time. Just let this disaster blow up...it's already started.


Jeb Bush urges 'self-restraint' in attacking Obamacare - POLITICO.com
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Jeb Bush and all the other Bushes need to just go away.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:18 AM
 
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Jeb's record in Florida has proven that he is capable. He's a moderate and a solid option in 2016. Certainly a more plausible option than hill-dawg, who's only experience in an executive capacity is over the Clinton household.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:22 AM
 
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Spoken like a true elder statesman, Jeb urges restraint on critiquing Obamacare. Jeb acknowledged that the GOP is better served just allowing the ACA to self-destruct. He is on the money on this one and I for one, hope he decides to run. Engaging in an ideological war with the government as the hostage is a joke, and a waste of time. Just let this disaster blow up...it's already started.


Jeb Bush urges 'self-restraint' in attacking Obamacare - POLITICO.com

The purpose of the so-called ACA is to destroy private insurance leaving no alternative to a single-payer system, so to allow Obamacare to run its course is to allow the private insurance most Americans want to be taken away against their will by a scam artist pretending to care about the cost and availability of healthcare.
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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while I do not like Obamacare, Bush has a point, we need to have a strong, articulate solution to the healthcare problem.

What is the conservative answer to the healthcare problem?
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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while I do not like Obamacare, Bush has a point, we need to have a strong, articulate solution to the healthcare problem.

What is the conservative answer to the healthcare problem?
5 Ways to Solve Health Care | Cato Institute
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Old 10-20-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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The purpose of the so-called ACA is to destroy private insurance leaving no alternative to a single-payer system, so to allow Obamacare to run its course is to allow the private insurance most Americans want to be taken away against their will by a scam artist pretending to care about the cost and availability of healthcare.
Sounds like a bit of a conspiracy theory.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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Spoken like a true elder statesman, Jeb urges restraint on critiquing Obamacare. Jeb acknowledged that the GOP is better served just allowing the ACA to self-destruct. He is on the money on this one and I for one, hope he decides to run. Engaging in an ideological war with the government as the hostage is a joke, and a waste of time. Just let this disaster blow up...it's already started.


Jeb Bush urges 'self-restraint' in attacking Obamacare - POLITICO.com
Ted Cruz just said in a CNN interview that he finds that approach very cynical because of the harm that would happen to people in the meantime. Interesting. Hadn't looked at it that way. But I'll go with Jeb's idea because it doesn't involve government shutdowns.

I'm prepared for it fail. It may very well. But it may not. At what point will the controversy end, though, I wonder? I think the energy spent on fighting it completely would be better spent negotiating improvements.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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The purpose of the so-called ACA is to destroy private insurance leaving no alternative to a single-payer system, so to allow Obamacare to run its course is to allow the private insurance most Americans want to be taken away against their will by a scam artist pretending to care about the cost and availability of healthcare.
Don't tell the private insurers that. They were among the architects of the plan. Probably the biggest reason why it sucks.

There is also the possibility that single-payer, or something like one of the other European systems, would have been the answer in the first place. There's a whole world full of good ideas out there, but we always try to reinvent the wheel.
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Old 10-20-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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while I do not like Obamacare, Bush has a point, we need to have a strong, articulate solution to the healthcare problem.

What is the conservative answer to the healthcare problem?
The solution is to get the government OUT OF IT.

Simple, effective, and the ONLY one that works.
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