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I am trying to understand though...what happens when an uninsured person goes to the hospital? Who pays for that....? A 5 year old who has some God awful issues that costs thousands and thousand of dollars to fix and is uninsured...who pays? How is it covered by the free market?
I am a free market person, just looking for an intelligent, thoughtful response to the health care problem. I am far from an expert on this issue!
The government has been 'out of it' since forever. And we have endlessly rising insurance costs, companies cutting people off when they reach the 'payment cap', or refusing to cover people with pre-existing conditions (like womanhood), and all the other ills that ACA is designed to solve.
When it comes to health care, the free-market has failed.
The conservatives are always upset by changing times.
I am trying to understand though...what happens when an uninsured person goes to the hospital? Who pays for that....? A 5 year old who has some God awful issues that costs thousands and thousand of dollars to fix and is uninsured...who pays? How is it covered by the free market?
I am a free market person, just looking for an intelligent, thoughtful response to the health care problem. I am far from an expert on this issue!
It's a tough situation, however the prejudice that we have when thinking about the answer comes from our knowledge of medical prices as they currently stand. The hospitals and other medical providers will have to eat costs just as any business eats costs. However, the treatment itself would be considerably cheaper in a situation where the free market dictates the prices of medical procedures. Mexico has very comparable medical care quality, but the prices are exceptionally cheaper because their prices are usually posted and they don't have a series of bureaucrats satisfying their benefactors.
A better question is, "why does the misconception exist that the uninsured seeking treatment at ER's is the sole driver of costs." It is a portion, no doubt but it isn't the real reason. Adding a market mechanism to treatment and dismantling the link of insurance to employment is the way medicine becomes more affordable for all of us.
The tea party could learn from Jeb on ACA... his basic point was, "if you want to bring down the policy, then present an alternative to people and explain to them why it would work better."
Of course, if the tea party had the capacity to reason like this, then they wouldn't be the tea party; they would be intelligent people with a rational point of view.
It's much easier / more fun for them to just talk about how US default isn't a big deal.
The purpose of the so-called ACA is to destroy private insurance leaving no alternative to a single-payer system, so to allow Obamacare to run its course is to allow the private insurance most Americans want to be taken away against their will by a scam artist pretending to care about the cost and availability of healthcare.
That is the same kinda predictions you all were making about US corporations be socialized if Obama became President.
...or how about this one; "Obama is going to conficate all your guns".
You people and your ridiculous predictions. Dont you all ever get tired of being wrong?
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Spoken like a true elder statesman, Jeb urges restraint on critiquing Obamacare. Jeb acknowledged that the GOP is better served just allowing the ACA to self-destruct. He is on the money on this one and I for one, hope he decides to run. Engaging in an ideological war with the government as the hostage is a joke, and a waste of time. Just let this disaster blow up...it's already started.
The GOP's answer to a health care crisis remains a can on the counter of your local 7-11.
It's fun reading posts like this. They just re-affirm the glaring lack of insight and knowledge the left has of ANY option to ANY problem with exception to having Big Brother pay pick up the check.
How about this for options.
1. Increase health insurance portability. (Remove it from it's tie to employment.) Health Insurance should be purchased on the free market just like auto insurance. This market mechanism is why I pay 250 dollars every six months for two brand new cars with full coverage.
2. Remove across state border regulations. I should be able to buy an Idaho tailored policy in NC or wherever I live. Idaho has the lowest cost because it's law requires it to cover the least. NY has one of the highest because more and more bureaucrats have dipped their pen in the company ink. Do you think it's a coincidence that the most liberal jurisdictions have the highest health insurance costs? FYI..It ain't.
3. Pay for services at the point of sale. Health insurance was never intended to be used for every visit. We don't file claims new paint jobs on our cars.
Those three options alone would do more than you could wrap your head around to lower healthcare costs....and all without one penny in tax increases.
Spoken like a true elder statesman, Jeb urges restraint on critiquing Obamacare. Jeb acknowledged that the GOP is better served just allowing the ACA to self-destruct. He is on the money on this one and I for one, hope he decides to run. Engaging in an ideological war with the government as the hostage is a joke, and a waste of time. Just let this disaster blow up...it's already started.
So the repubs should not have asked for the personal mandate to be delayed for the 30-40 million uninsured?
I see, so Jeb thinks if the law will unfairly harm the people, we just sit back and do nothing to prove a political point, so that later on we can say "see, we told you so?"
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