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This will be the last time I look at this thread. As of right now we are at 100% of people voting who see it as a necessity.
I want to keep some faith in humanity and I am going to pretend that there isn't 1 person who would see it as luxury.
"access to health care" is such a broad term that it's meaningless. Everyone has had access to health care since the beginning of time. You cut your finger, you put a bandaid on it. That's "access to health care".
If you use the term "access to health care" meaning health care is a necessity and if I can't afford my health care, you have an obligation to pay for it, then I disagree.
Part of health care is preventative maintenance...so, for all of you who think that health care is a "right", then I would like you to pay for my shelter, my heat, and my healthy food so that I may take part in my "right" to remain healthy through health care and preventative maintenance. Thank you. No checks, but I do accept PayPal. A grand a month should do it. Appreciate it.
You have no entitlement to what someone else does or works for. Ever.
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Originally Posted by pnwmdk
True. But nobody claims that you have a right to have them provided for you via someone else's work.
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Spoken like a true, Kool-Aid drinking Socialist! Somewhere, Lenin and Mark are smiling upon you.
As for the rest of us, not so much. I think that people need to pull their own weight and take responsibility for themselves. We're humans, not ants.
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"access to health care" is such a broad term that it's meaningless. Everyone has had access to health care since the beginning of time. You cut your finger, you put a bandaid on it. That's "access to health care".
If you use the term "access to health care" meaning health care is a necessity and if I can't afford my health care, you have an obligation to pay for it, then I disagree.
You all are in the "HC is not a right," so maybe you can explain why we provide it to prisoners for free.
You all are in the "HC is not a right," so maybe you can explain why we provide it to prisoners for free.
If you think prisoners are getting anything even remotely close to the kind of health care that anyone on the outside gets, you are not paying attention, or are severely naive.
The World Health Organization's constitution is not binding upon this nation. Here's a reality check for you. We were not developed as nor have we yet totally become, the current Administration's efforts notwithstanding, a totally socialist nation. Hopefully we won't unless and until our Constitution is changed to permit it.
I count as a blessing that I'm old enough that I'll never live to see it come to that as it would, in my estimation, destroy the very fiber of my country and erase the last vestiges of personal independence and the values, incentives and rewards of hard work.
What will really destroy the personal independence and "fiber" of society is an ever increasing number of individuals and families wiped out by the cost of a catastrophic illness due to lack of access to basic health care. One major key to preventing this is to make sure people have access to affordable health insurance. The only way that can happen is if the largest possible number of people are covered by insurance. It's a basic principle of insurance--you need a large risk pool to keep the cost of it down. The only way to accomplish this is to require people to be insured. That is why people are required to pay taxes for things like roads, defense, police and fire protection, etc.
To have real meaning, "freedom" has to be more than "...just another word for nothing left to lose."
If you think prisoners are getting anything even remotely close to the kind of health care that anyone on the outside gets, you are not paying attention, or are severely naive.
I'm pretty sure prisoners get better HC than someone who can't afford to go to the doctor or pay for prescriptions.
I live in Canada and as in most developed nations is is considered a human right...The US is lagging behind the rest of the developed world regarding human rights.
WHO Constitution: "the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of health is one of the fundamental rights of every human being..."
When did WHO become the arbiter of what is a right and what is not?
Spending other people's money is a joy to WHO.
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I think that people need to pull their own weight and take responsibility for themselves. We're humans, not ants.
