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Old 10-31-2013, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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The ACA didn't force anyone off their plans.

The ACA just forced insurance companies to stop offering weak insurance plans whose risks end up costing everyone.
So to stop everyone from paying for these plans we set up a system where everyone pays.

Seems like a logical progressive solution.
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Old 10-31-2013, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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For the one thousandth time, most of these polices were not weak . My policy will never ever put me in a position where I am a burden to myself or society.
Stop complaining. You and your insurance company are obviously not smart enough to determine what is best for you. The government is. And you will like it or you are racist and greedy.

Sincerely,

Liberal Democrats
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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The ACA didn't force anyone off their plans.

The ACA just forced insurance companies to stop offering weak insurance plans whose risks end up costing everyone.
Bull****! These are not weak insurance plans, they just don't meet Obama's plan. As soon as Obamacare was signed into law people lost their low cost health care plans, which is why we saw a flurry of Obamacare waivers, for unions and companies like McDonalds. The unions are still begging Obama to amend Obamacare so they can offer their plans to their members without suffering penalties.

The point is, if I like my plan, it should be up to me if I want to keep it. Insurance companies do not make any money by dropping 800,000 people off their insurance plans, Obamacare voids those plans and makes it so they can no longer be offered.
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:38 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The ACA didn't force anyone off their plans.
Indeed, it did. And even WORSE, the Obama Admin KNEW way back in 2010 that it would knock over 90 million Americans off their insurance policies:
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Under this assumption, the Departments’ mid-range estimate is that 66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013. The low-end estimates are for 49 percent and 34 percent of small and large employer plans, respectively, to have relinquished grandfather status, and the high-end estimates are 80 percent and 64 percent, respectively.
https://webapps.dol.gov/federalregis...px?DocId=23967

Obama's BLATANT LIE, repeated for over 3 years:

"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

"No one will take it away. No matter what."
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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The ACA didn't force anyone off their plans.

The ACA just forced insurance companies to stop offering weak insurance plans whose risks end up costing everyone.

Obama and the democrats are lying. Quit spreading their lies.
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:32 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Obama and the democrats are lying. Quit spreading their lies.
Yeah BS someone is selling much bologna. I already know people off of their present health insurance, which had great coverage, and also covered pre-conditions for some of my freinds and family members. They had great coverage, stop the damn lies.

Their new coverage premiums which has not started up yet, is raised two times what they now pay, and the coverage does not even begin to compare to the health coverage they all had. BS to the bologana and progaganda.

Months ago they received their good-by letters stating they will no longer with regret, be able to keep their insurance, and in some cases really sad, the same Doctors for over 15 years, i find this terrible.

BS does not work on any intelligent soul who has a brain, and can see for themselves truly what is

happening. My fudgin insurance and my hubbys have gone up so high, i am fed up, i love my Doctor mostly my husband who his Doctor has saved his life twice, no i fudgin am not a happy camper.

This which is the truth, is not working out as planned for many many many many Americans. Your going to spread BS then have factual facts from all health insurers and the letters in the mail these policy holders have received.
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Old 11-01-2013, 04:57 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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If I'm a young single male in good health, why is it that I have to buy, vision, maternity and other insurance mandated by ACA. As a single male I'll never get pregnant, but it's required under ACA that I have maternity insurance, I'm force to buy a substance abuse policy even those I don't indulge in any thing that would be called substance abuse. Why can't I just have catastrophic health insurance? If my income is higher than the subsidy allows then I'm force to buy a health care plan I don't need at a much higher cost than I'm paying now.
Welcome to the world of socialism, where redistribution of wealth mean the distribution of misery. You must pay for all those services you will never need or use so that other parasites may get subsidies at your expense.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:04 AM
 
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Indeed, it did. And even WORSE, the Obama Admin KNEW way back in 2010 that it would knock over 90 million Americans off their insurance policies:https://webapps.dol.gov/federalregis...px?DocId=23967

Obama's BLATANT LIE, repeated for over 3 years:

"If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what."

"No one will take it away. No matter what."
Exactly
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:06 AM
 
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Welcome to the world of socialism, where redistribution of wealth mean the distribution of misery. You must pay for all those services you will never need or use so that other parasites may get subsidies at your expense.
That's the one-size-fits-all mentality, everyone must comply, no room for freedom of choice, so even a single 60 year old man must pay for insurance that covers pediatrics, maternity care, and women's medical needs.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:14 AM
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The ACA didn't force anyone off their plans.

The ACA just forced insurance companies to stop offering weak insurance plans whose risks end up costing everyone.

Let me get this straight - a "tin" policy that cost someone $50 a month with a $2500 deductible that covered hospitalization is weak compared to the new $150 bronze plan with a $6,500 - $10,000 deductible?

Does not compute. Just because they have this new policy does not mean that they will be able to pay the old $2500 deductible let alone a $6500 one.
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